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Posted on 07/23/2010 4:24:44 PM PDT by Chode
GERMAN GRAND PRIX
Date: Sunday 25 July
Lap length: 2.842 miles
Race laps: 72
2008 winner: Mark Webber (Red Bull) (at the Nurburgring)
First grand prix: 1977
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|5||4||Nico Rosberg||Mercedes GP||1:16.827||0.562||32|
|6||3||Michael Schumacher||Mercedes GP||1:16.971||0.706||20|
|11||23||Kamui Kobayashi||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||1:17.336||1.071||44|
|13||22||Pedro de la Rosa||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||1:17.573||1.308||39|
|14||14||Adrian Sutil||Force India-Mercedes||1:17.701||1.436||38|
|16||15||Vitantonio Liuzzi||Force India-Mercedes||1:17.871||1.606||33|
|21||25||Lucas di Grassi||Virgin-Cosworth||1:20.106||3.841||31|
Speculation over who will partner Robert Kubica at Renault next season is already hotting up. Former Jaguar driver and current Hispania reserve driver Christian Klien, as well as Bruno Senna, are both believed to have been in contact with Renault but Kimi Raikkonen or Nick Heidfeld could be the preferred choice.
Full story: GrandPrix.com
Mercedes director Norbert Haug is expecting an improved performance from drivers Nico Rosberg and Michael Schumacher this weekend after introducing a series of changes at Hockenheim.
Full story: ESPNF1
Red Bull boss Christian Horner has revealed that Mark Webber, and not Sebastian Vettel, will get the nod if the team has to make a call on a single part in Hockenheim - as it did at Silverstone last time out - because the Australian is ahead of Vettel in the championship.
Full story: Autosport.com
Despite reports that Korea may seek a year's postponement of its inaugural Grand Prix, scheduled for October 2010, the managing Korean Auto Valley Operation (KAVO) says that a recent site visit by FIA F1 race director and safety delegate, Charlie Whiting, was a success.
Full story: GrandPrix.com
Dickie Stanford, the long-time Williams F1 team manager, is returning to the race team. Tim Newton, the current team manager, has been promoted to a factory-based production job.
Joe Saward's Grand Prix blog
Asked to nominate the best driver of all time, 12 of 20 of the current crop of F1 pilots voted for Ayrton Senna. Three voted for Michael Schumacher. Full story: Crash.net
McLaren will keep the blown diffuser on its cars for the rest of the German Grand Prix weekend, despite a compromised day of practice on Friday. Full story: Autosport.com
One of Ferrari's developments this weekend is a constant exhaust-gas pressure system to feed the blown diffuser. Diario Sport claims that the Italian team's version of the system - to which much of Red Bull's qualifying dominance is attributed - was tested for the first time in Hockenheim practice. Full story: espnf1.com
There are rumblings about several teams having financial troubles and - possibly as a result - some are pressing for Monaco to pay more for staging a Grand Prix. Full story: Joe Saward's Grand Prix blog
Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso all achieved higher scores than their team-mates when Germany's Bild newspaper presented the bosses of the Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari teams with blank 'report cards' to fill out for their drivers. Full story: Motorsport.com
Lotus driver Heikki Kovalainen is smiling enigmatically and carefully avoiding making a direct answer when suggestions that he is being lined up to partner Robert Kubica at Renault next season are put to him. Full story: Motorsport.com
|9||4||Nico Rosberg||Mercedes GP||1:16.178||1:15.018||1:15.179|
|11||3||Michael Schumacher||Mercedes GP||1:16.084||1:15.026|
|12||23||Kamui Kobayashi||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||1:15.951||1:15.084|
|14||14||Adrian Sutil||Force India-Mercedes||1:16.220||1:15.467|
|15||22||Pedro de la Rosa||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||1:16.450||1:15.550|
|22||15||Vitantonio Liuzzi||Force India-Mercedes||1:18.952|
|24||25||Lucas di Grassi||Virgin-Cosworth|
Qualifying - Vettel snatches home pole in Germany
Ferraris Fernando Alonso led Red Bulls Sebastian Vettel in both Q1 and Q2, and again after the first runs in Q3, but on his very last run the German stopped the clocks in 1m 13.791s. And when the dust had settled after the Spaniard had completed his second run he came up just two thousandths of a second short, on 1m 13.793s.
There could scarcely have been a better nor more dramatic scene-setter for Sundays German Grand Prix here at Hockenheim.
After Red Bulls Mark Webber made a mistake in the first sector of his final run, he was jumped by Felipe Massa in the second Ferrari, who thus starts third after a lap of 1m 14.290s. Webber is fourth on 1m 14.347s.
Behind them, the McLarens share row three, with Jenson Button acing Lewis Hamilton on their final runs. The former improved to 1m 14.427s, the latter did not improve on 1m 14.566s.
Robert Kubica was seventh for Renault on 1m 15.079s, ahead of Rubens Barrichello on 1m 15.109s for Williams, Nico Rosberg on 1m 15.179s for Mercedes, and Nico Hulkenberg on 1m 15.339s in the second Williams.
Right at the end of Q2, in which Alonso was again fastest with 1m 14.081s, Hulkenberg pushed fellow German - and Mercedes driver - Michael Schumacher out of Q3, leaving the veteran first of the fallers on 1m 15.026s (to Rosbergs 1m 15.018s). Kamui Kobayashi ran wide in Turn One and thus compromised his chances of getting through, leaving him 12th for BMW Sauber with 1m 15.084s, then came Vitaly Petrov on 1m 15.307s for Renault, Adrian Sutil on 1m 15.467s for Force India, Pedro de la Rosa on 1m 15.550s in the second BMW Sauber and then the Toro Rossos of Jaime Alguersuari and Sebastien Buemi on 1m 15.588s and 1m 15.974s.
In Q1 Vitantonio Liuzzi had just done a 1m 18.952s when he ran wide exiting the final corner, spun and smacked broadside into the pit wall. A front wheel flew off the Force India, and though the Italian was unharmed, the session was red flagged for eight minutes while the debris was cleared up.
When it resumed, Vettel went fastest until he was supplanted by Alonso with 1m 14.808s, and those who didnt get through were Jarno Trulli and Heikki Kovalainen who put Lotus back on top in the newbie stakes with 1m 17.583s and 1m 18.300s respectively; Timo Glocks Virgin on 1m 18.343s, and Bruno Sennas HRT on 1m 18.592s. At the back, Liuzzi will start 22nd ahead of Sakon Yamamoto who lapped his HRT in 1m 19.844s and Lucas di Grassi, whose Virgin ran into mechanical problems before he got a timed lap.
Sutil is set to drop five places on Sunday's grid thanks to a gearbox-change penalty following problems in final practice. The German will thus start 19th, with De la Rosa, Alguersuari, Buemi, Trulli and Kovalainen each moving up a place as a result.
Glock and Di Grassi will also be handed five-place grid penalties after both their Virgins needed new gearboxes. As he failed to set a time during qualifying, Di Grassi will stay 24th. Glock, meanwhile, will drop from 20th to 23rd, with Senna, Liuzzi and Yamamoto moving up to 20th, 21st and 22nd respectively.
Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel admitted that he had to push beyond the limit to take pole position at the German Grand Prix.
Vettel edged Fernando Alonso to the top spot by just 0.002 seconds as Ferrari renewed its bid on the title at the Hockenheim with a return to form. Vettel had been wary of Alonso's pace after Friday practice and said he was relieved to snatch pole away from the Spaniard on home turf.
"It will be interesting to work out how much [distance] two thousandths of a second is," Vettel mused. "All session Fernando was very strong and Ferrari are generally very competitive. It was very exciting and in Q2 I knew we had one lap to get it right.
"It was close and you push a little bit more and you lose the edge of the tyres and then feel you are losing time. My last run wasn't 100 per cent perfect, I had a bit here or there where I went above the limit but in the end it was enough by nearly nothing to stay ahead and get on pole.
"I am extremely happy. It's my first time on pole at home but the main challenge will come tomorrow - we have a very strong car here and a tough fight against the red cars."
Two weeks ago at Silverstone, Vettel lost the lead at the start to team-mate Mark Webber and fell back down the field with a puncture. However, he is confident he can avoid a similar fate at the start on Sunday.
"I think unlike Silverstone the clean side [of the track] is worth a bit," he said. "Fernando and myself in the last race were surprised by the bad grip on the clean side. Here it should be good for us. We have a very strong car, it is very close to the Ferraris. Usually we have a decent pace in the race - it is a long race, everything is possible.
"We start from the best position after a good job today but tomorrow is the target. Today there is no real reward other than going to sleep with a good feeling."
Baby Schumi and Alonso!
The two young prodigies. Alonso was WC and double world champion at the youngest age. Ferrari has not been the same since Brawn left.
I wish I had the Italian Gran Prix DVD when Vettel won for Toro Rosso aka Minardi. They will always be Minardi to me.
Any web feeds of the race? I nuked TV service a year ago.
if the one at the top doesn’t work try this one...
Thanks yeah it works for a while. Looks like Fred’s going to win.
|Country||Driver||Car||Team||Grid||Fastest lap||Race time||Points|
|3||germany||Sebastian Vettel||5||Red Bull-Renault||1||1:15.824||+00:05.121||15|
|4||great britain||Lewis Hamilton||2||McLaren-Mercedes||6||+00:26.896||12|
|5||great britain||Jenson Button||1||McLaren-Mercedes||5||+00:29.482||10|
|6||australia||Mark Webber||6||Red Bull-Renault||4||+00:43.606||8|
|8||germany||Nico Rosberg||4||Mercedes GP||9||lapped||4|
|9||germany||Michael Schumacher||3||Mercedes GP||11||lapped||2|
|11||japan||Kamui Kobayashi||23||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||12||lapped|
|14||spain||Pedro de la Rosa||22||BMW Sauber-Ferrari||14||lapped|
|15||spain||Jaime Alguersuari||17||Toro Rosso-Ferrari||15||lapped|
|16||italy||Vitantonio Liuzzi||15||Force India-Mercedes||21||lapped|
|17||germany||Adrian Sutil||14||Force India-Mercedes||19||lapped|
|20||finland||Heikki Kovalainen||19||Lotus-Cosworth||18||retired, 56 laps|
|21||brazil||Lucas di Grassi||25||Virgin-Cosworth||24||retired, 50 laps|
|22||japan||Sakon Yamamoto||20||Hispania-Cosworth||22||retired, 19 laps|
|23||italy||Jarno Trulli||18||Lotus-Cosworth||17||retired, 3 laps|
|24||switzerland||Sebastien Buemi||16||Toro Rosso-Ferrari||16||retired, 1 laps|
i found a couple more links that i'll put at the top along with this one next race and see how they do
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