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To: conimbricenses

Another farrago of falsehoods.

Nothing TRUTHFUL is part of a conspiracy.

Monroe and Beckley made sure the papers resulting from the investigation of the Reynolds’ affair went to Jefferson. WHY? If he was such a disinterested party would he have been concerned? Why did the info surface from Callender, Jefferson’s hired literary assassin?

Even your quote shows no invasion of any territories was contemplated except under imminent French attack. They were DEFENSIVE plans not offensive.

Jefferson’s encouragement of democracy is what I was referring to as his followers eventually lost control of spending. This is just as valid a statement as yours blaming Hamilton for our excessive debt something he never would have supported.

Tariffs were not the cause of the Civil War. People complained about taxes from day one but Jefferson’s avowal of policies which undermined the constitution provided the intellectual justification that the slavers dragged out to give their defense of slavery some moral weight.

On Feb. 4, 1784 H was one of the founding members of the Manumission society along with 21 members including Jay and Burr. Nor did he own slaves but rather tried to get the NY assembly to outlaw slavery. He suggested that members of the society free their own slaves. The suggestion was quashed. It is possible that his father-in-law gave his wife a slave or indentured servant but there is no record that a slave was with the family for long.

I was quoting from Robert Hendrickson’s biography of this amazing man. He admires Hamilton but does not hide his warts. Nor does he differ much from any of the dozens of biographers I have read. Hell, I will even read some you suggest.


842 posted on 09/21/2010 10:48:42 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob
Monroe and Beckley made sure the papers resulting from the investigation of the Reynolds’ affair went to Jefferson. WHY? If he was such a disinterested party would he have been concerned? Why did the info surface from Callender, Jefferson’s hired literary assassin?

Very simple. BECAUSE IT WAS TRUE.

It takes an astonishing level of hubris to believe that you can hold an office of high public trust while living the life of a sexual libertine, only to purport outrage when the opposition party gets wind of it all and spills it to the newspapers. Hamilton apparently had that hubris. So did Bill Clinton.

844 posted on 09/21/2010 10:55:40 PM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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To: arrogantsob
Nor did he own slaves

Even Chernow admits the evidence of this is inconclusive. Hamilton seems to have preferred to rent his slaves from others, much as one might rent a car or apartment today. It is well documented, however, that he bid on at least 6 slaves at auction on behalf of his in-laws.

848 posted on 09/21/2010 11:02:01 PM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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