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Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine: Are Handgun Caliber Rifles the New Home Defense Shotgun?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 10 August, 2010 | Robert Farago

Posted on 08/11/2010 5:10:45 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: umgud; All

Shotgun does it for me....

41 posted on 08/11/2010 5:47:28 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Eye of Unk

I thought the M3 submachine gun was dubbed “grease gun” . Not the Thompson.


42 posted on 08/11/2010 5:47:55 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Uncle Ike

If you have waited that long to charge the weapon you have waited way too long.


43 posted on 08/11/2010 5:48:12 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Dixie Yooper
Why bother with a pistol-ammo rifle for home defense when you can have a revolver that shoots .45 or 4-10 ammo?

WTF is that?

44 posted on 08/11/2010 5:48:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: jospehm20

” Cycling any type of gun tends to give away your position. I personally do not think that is a good idea. “

I, personally, do not think storing a gun, or any weapon, “in battery” is a particularly good idea....


45 posted on 08/11/2010 5:49:52 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: xenob; caver
Agreed....they are asthetically challenged. I have a 9mm HiPoint because it was dirt cheap. Since I have other quality firearms, I only plan to use it as potential trade bait in a SHTF scenario.

I view it as a higher capacity PF-45 Liberator.....use it once and get an upgrade from the opponent.

46 posted on 08/11/2010 5:50:04 AM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: marktwain

Interesting thread. We have been trying to decide on a home defense weapon, and were told by LEO that a shotgun is best. Then someone said that a shotgun is not good because of what one poster said- barrel could be grabbed, makes a mess in your house with the spray, the noise it makes as you chamber the shell alerts the BG (for the good or bad!).

So confusing.


47 posted on 08/11/2010 5:50:16 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: marktwain

I had a bear try to break in one night. I think a 45 will only make a bear intruder mad. I am waiting on a 870 riot gun with a short barrel. I have a 45 Colt for two leg intruders.


48 posted on 08/11/2010 5:50:19 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: benewton

I’ll second that, the pistol whould be at your side no matter what ‘long gun’ one has.

I have a SPR AR that’s for ‘perimeter’ defense since I live on a large lot. Do you have a EOTech or Airpoint on your’s?


50 posted on 08/11/2010 5:51:34 AM PDT by ATLDiver
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To: benewton
The shotgun doesn’t give much in the way of pellet dispersion at room ranges.

Depends on what you've got chambered. Using what most people use (00Buck) you are right, but I keep both of my Benelli M1 Super 90s loaded #1 Buck. It is proven to be a better option for home defense as it puts more energy on target with slightly less chance of wall penetration than 00.

51 posted on 08/11/2010 5:53:03 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: 1raider1

You may be right, I have whats called a “trench gun” or riot shotgun, its a 1933 Winchester Model 11, looks just like a Browning humpbacked A5 auto 12. Has a cut down barrel and stock.


52 posted on 08/11/2010 5:54:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: ATLDiver

Absolutely. Never bring an unloaded gun to a gunfight.


53 posted on 08/11/2010 5:54:45 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot
I agree - but if you want to use sound to scare the intruder, keep one of these in your closet...
RRRRRRRRRR ( intruders tend to run away, they know your crazy)

54 posted on 08/11/2010 5:55:25 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Uncle Ike
there’s no more intimidating sound, from man or nature, than the distinctive ‘racking’ of a pump-action shotgun...
Makes it much more likely to be able to defuse a situation without having to fire a shot....
. . . which makes me wonder if I don't want an actuator mechanism which can be concealed somewhere and triggered remotely to produce that sound.
Intruder hears sound, cannot locate the source, loses confidence in his ability to control the tactical situation, departs.

55 posted on 08/11/2010 5:55:37 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: marktwain
I leave my first line of home defense to the professionals...

Anyone makes it past him, gets a .45 lead sandwich door prize dispensed from a m1911.

56 posted on 08/11/2010 5:56:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reddy

-—these “home defense” threads usually end up full of , uh—hot air—


57 posted on 08/11/2010 5:56:03 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: central_va

58 posted on 08/11/2010 5:56:21 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: umgud

That looks like the perfect home defense weapon.


59 posted on 08/11/2010 5:57:08 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: OKSooner
BGs won't hear me racking my shotgun over the barking of my three 100 pound + dogs that are going to be their first problem to deal with when I open the bedroom door. what's the most dangerous dog in the world? Maybe a chihuahua backed by an armed owner. Those little guys are good burgler alarms.
60 posted on 08/11/2010 5:57:16 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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