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Fate of Universe revealed by galactic lens
BBC News ^ | 8/19/10 | Howard Falcon-Lang

Posted on 08/19/2010 3:49:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
[We only know it exists because of its effect on the expansion of the Universe.]
 
Uh, no... its existense is also hypothesized due to observed gravitational lensing attributed to dark matter.
 
Which reminds me of this one time when.... {ehem}
 
 
 
While we were there, Gumby ran his hypothesis regarding the missing dark mass/energy problem past the Professor...
 
Gumby thinks the discrepancy is due to an incomplete knowledge of space itself, related to variability of the “Classic Vacuum”.

If Space is to Energy as Energy is to Mass, then he suspects the observations attributed to “dark matter/energy” can be explained by presuming a localized density of space - where spatial distortion is equivalent to E. “Dark matter/energy” existing where E is locally sufficient to manifest the weak gravitational force (observable as gravitational lensing) but insufficient to manifest the strong forces required for the creation of matter.

If this is the case, then mass would be variable in proportion to the density of its spatial context.

G=M+E

IOW: Total Relative Gravity = Newtonian Gravity + Spatial Energy Density.
 
The Idea so affected the professor that he was unable to respond.
Gumby said it was like talking to a statue...
{badumpump}
 
 

21 posted on 08/19/2010 10:06:17 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: cripplecreek; newheart
>>only from the book “On the Beach” by Nevil Shute.
 
The Wasteland also appears in Apocalypse Now.... which, paradoxically, is based upon Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness".

Mr Kurtz, he freezing his arse off in a cold/dead universe.
 
The Horror....  unless.... Mr. Kurtz happened to believe in a reconciliation gracefuly provided by his Creator.

22 posted on 08/19/2010 10:31:06 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

>>The Wasteland

SB: The Hollow Men.

What an interesting contextual slip between the... between the...

LOL.


23 posted on 08/19/2010 10:45:50 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Down worry, in a few weeks another group of boffins will find another astronomical feature and conclude that the Universe will collapse on itself in a few score billion years.

Would you like to make a wager?

24 posted on 08/20/2010 12:30:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: newheart
I also immediately thought of Eliot, but a different line:

"There is shadow under this red rock,
(Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

25 posted on 08/20/2010 12:36:56 AM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: Captain Rhino; LomanBill; cripplecreek; newheart
"And now, having learned that the Universe will end in cold, dead, lifelessness in say, 40 or 50 billion years, I'm totally bummed and I think I'll get drunk.

Try Eliot's favorite drink. Vodka with water.

Think about it while reading post #25.
26 posted on 08/20/2010 12:42:29 AM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: NormsRevenge
It will eventually become a cold, dead wasteland, researchers say.

As far as ordinary matter is concerned, that could be true, but the vacuum is far from a dead wasteland. In fact it may be the substance from which new universes are made.

27 posted on 08/20/2010 12:46:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: Moonman62
LiM: Down worry, in a few weeks another group of boffins will find another astronomical feature and conclude that the Universe will collapse on itself in a few score billion years.

MM62: Would you like to make a wager?

Sure, as long as you allow me to define the terms "few", "boffins" and "conclude" ;)

28 posted on 08/20/2010 4:06:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A "galactic lens" has revealed that the Universe will probably expand forever. ... It will eventually become a cold, dead wasteland, researchers say.

Harrumph! These 'researchers just found this out?

"Heck', The Who' knew this aver 40 years ago.

Teenage WASTELAND (Baba O'Reily) (you Tube with lyrics 4:58)

"They're all wasted"


29 posted on 08/20/2010 4:16:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: shibumi; Captain Rhino; cripplecreek; newheart
>>Try Eliot's favorite drink. Vodka with water.
 
Heh.  I have a friend from the Ukraine who told me:  "Vee can make Wodka from anyting.   Vee can make Wodka from furniture".  
 
I think I'll stick with the water part mostly because...
Between the full glass
and the empty bottle
Between the euphoria
and the return to homeostasis, 
falls the hangover.
 
Been there did that...   ;-}

30 posted on 08/20/2010 7:43:54 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Dogbert41

Bump+1


31 posted on 08/20/2010 7:49:57 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: NormsRevenge

But these same people say the entire universe was once nothing - and the big bang created everything from nothing... Explain that.


32 posted on 08/20/2010 7:20:11 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: GregoryFul

>>Explain that.

“Let there be light!”


33 posted on 08/20/2010 8:27:14 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

Ah, I see!


34 posted on 08/21/2010 5:04:34 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: shibumi
Thanks for the info on Eliot's favorite drink.

I'll have to decline as I like flavor along with the buzz: dark Indian rum and coke; gin, Rose's lime cordial, and panni; or CC & 7. Cold but no ice, thanks.

As for the lines you quoted, which of his poems are they from? What is your interpretation of the last line's meaning?

35 posted on 08/21/2010 5:34:56 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Just got home from a hard day.

I’ve already written some commentary on that poem (as have a couple of thousand other people.) It’s The Waste Land, from the first section titled “Burial of the Dead.”

I’ll try to find the little bit I wrote, which was on those lines in particular, later tonight.

By the way, my mention of the drink was specifically because it leapt to mind when I read your comment “And now, having learned that the Universe will end in cold, dead, lifelessness...” Somehow the bland, flavorlessness of vodka with water seemed fitting.


36 posted on 08/21/2010 7:51:43 PM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: NormsRevenge
It will eventually become a cold, dead wasteland

So, several tens of billions of years hence, the whole universe will be kind of like Detroit?

37 posted on 08/22/2010 6:41:13 PM PDT by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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