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NY kennel owner admits gassing 93 dogs with farm engine (puppy mill)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Monday, September 13, 2010 | Amy Worden

Posted on 09/14/2010 11:46:17 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: RachelFaith

We are probably closer in our view of this than our posts would indicate back and forth.


181 posted on 09/14/2010 5:25:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie ( Ok, Joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
We are probably closer in our view of this than our posts would indicate back and forth.

Almost assuredly !!

= D

182 posted on 09/14/2010 6:17:48 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: The KG9 Kid
And you need to undevelop your miscalibrated sense of moral relevancy.

Thanks for that comeback to from occupied ga. Right on target.

183 posted on 09/14/2010 6:32:37 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Re post 31, of course he’s macho. Can’t you feel the testosterone oozing from every post by this tough guy?


184 posted on 09/14/2010 6:36:30 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: brytlea

I am so sorry to hear about your loss, and it was a loss, the “tough guys” on this thread notwithstanding.

When my beloved Bradley was euthanized, the vet was careful to first give him some kind of tranquilizer to “sooth” him. And it did. Then the heart-stopping drug was administered, and it was a quick, painless death (maybe 5 seconds). I wish that I could go that way.

People not oriented like you and me cannot understand the pain when we lose our beloved pets.


185 posted on 09/14/2010 6:41:35 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Thank you. Most of the time, yes, it doesn’t appear to be a difficult death. I had one die of a torsion on the way to the vets. That is a bad way to go.


186 posted on 09/14/2010 7:17:07 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

This is what I get for breaking my own rule about responding to drunks and morons.


187 posted on 09/15/2010 4:22:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I think you missed the part of the report that noted the dogs were almost certainly going to die, regardless of treatment, and if they did live, would be contagious for the rest of their lives.

The animals had to be put down. In short, the appropriate medical treatment was given.


188 posted on 09/15/2010 7:49:57 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

If you look at the case I cited, part of the basis for upholding the charge was the defendant’s attempt to self-treat the dog, which is also what Yoder did.

Furthermore, the dogs were “treated” by gassing them to death. The gas was administered in a manner that is illegal under the law, both in terms of the method used and the failure to have it supervised by a vet. Ergo, the method was not appropriate.

Accordingly, Yoder did not provide appropriate treatment and it appears that the statute, as interpreted, was violated.


189 posted on 09/15/2010 2:42:42 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You are confusing statutes with regulations.


190 posted on 09/15/2010 2:46:28 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Um, no. The provisions of Ag and Markets Law are statutes.


191 posted on 09/15/2010 7:45:23 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I agree, to a point.

Why did he let the population get to that level in the first place?

Better to prevent than to let it get to that point, IMO.

But... Once he needed to put them down, he did put some effort into trying to be humane about it.

Fails the Nazi test, folks. Dogs still aren't people.

192 posted on 09/15/2010 8:02:51 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You are still muddling things.

The authority requiring the use of a vet to put down a dog is regulation in NY and a statute in PA.

The general cruelty statute you cite was NY and does not apply, as medical treament that was necessary (death) was given.

This was NY.


193 posted on 09/16/2010 8:58:20 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I haven't cited a single PA law. Why do you keep bringing up PA law as if I did? In any event, here is the Agriculture and Markets Law of the State of New York. It is part of "Consolidated Laws of the State of New York."

These are the state statutes. The regulations are consolidated separately in a volume known as the "New York State Code Rules and Regulations."

Feel free to poke around in the consolidated laws, and the court cases I cited and you'll see that I cited statutes, not regulations.

194 posted on 09/16/2010 10:42:47 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“Why do you keep bringing up PA law as if I did?”

Because the only law that states a dog cannot be killed by a dog breeder is a PA law.

You stated:

“The gas was administered in a manner that is illegal under the law, both in terms of the method used and the failure to have it supervised by a vet.”

This would be true in PA only, not NY where the events occurred.


195 posted on 09/16/2010 11:21:33 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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