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To: Huck

Reggie did it, also. He’s in the Hall.
What I am saying is that for a DH, there was none better than Edgar. He defined the position.


39 posted on 10/03/2010 9:55:04 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: irishtenor

DH isn’t a position. There have been other players who spent a lot of time at DH who did as well as Edgar—Frank Thomas comes to mind. David Ortiz. It’s silly to call the DH a position. It’s a spot in the batting order for people who can’t play the field. A permanent DH is a liability, really. It gives the manager much less flexibility. He can’t spell his more valuable position players by giving them a day at DH. He can’t juggle his defensive alignment based on the situation.He has to put the guy who can’t field in the spot in the lineup everyday. If you are gonna be that guy, you’d better hit!


44 posted on 10/04/2010 7:32:35 AM PDT by Huck (We need the spirit of '76, not the spirit of '87)
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To: irishtenor
For leadoff hitters, two things matter: getting on base, and scoring runs. Doesn't matter how you get on base. Doesn't matter how you score. That's your job, and that's all that matters to winning and losing. So, 150 hits and 100 walks is just as good as 200 hits and 50 walks. In fact, if most of those hits are singles, the walks might even be better, because they wear down the pitcher.

Rickey Henderson career OBP .401 !

Ichiro: .376

Rickey RUNS : 2295 (first all time,avg'd 121 per season.

Ichiro: 1047, avg 107 per season

So, we've established that while Ichiro is a prolific singles hitter, he's not the best hitter ever, not even the best leadoff hitter ever.

45 posted on 10/04/2010 7:39:39 AM PDT by Huck (We need the spirit of '76, not the spirit of '87)
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