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Texas: Investigator of Reported Border Lake Shooting Is Killed
NY Times ^ | October 12, 2010

Posted on 10/12/2010 8:47:08 PM PDT by rdl6989

Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez of Zapata County, Tex., said Tuesday that the head of Rolando Flores, a Mexican police commander investigating the reported shooting of an American on a border lake plagued by pirates, was found in a suitcase outside a Mexican Army base. Sheriff Gonzalez said “reliable sources within the law enforcement community of Mexico” told him that Mr. Flores’s head was discovered Tuesday morning.

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To: only the truth

No wonder the mainstream labels us, kooks,listen I am all for securing our borders but,do not demonize most of the Mexicans,we have 1/5 of our Americans refusing to pay their debts and leaving us to pick up the pieces,we have 42% getting our tax dollars free ,with all the health care ,rent payments,dental,food,lucky them!!! And they pay no taxes(must be nice)


41 posted on 10/12/2010 11:23:48 PM PDT by only the truth
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To: mmercier
I hate it when my head is found in a suitcase.

It has happened, but my arse was still attached to it.

Now, see, liberals NEVER worry about their head and arse getting separated on account of they pack the one around INSIDE the other.

42 posted on 10/12/2010 11:25:32 PM PDT by HKMk23 (The dogs bark, but the caravan rolls on...)
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To: only the truth
Why are you talking to yourself?

No wonder the mainstream labels us, kooks

The "mainstream" labels us kooks? First, we are not talking to ourselves. Second, the majority of Americans still believe illegal is illegal. You are part of the occupation minority who don't. Deal with it.
43 posted on 10/12/2010 11:30:00 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: only the truth

Why didn’t you just by a house that was already built? Lately I wonder why people breed dogs or pay $500 for them when there are so many already born that need homes. Same thing, why build a new house when you can buy one that is sitting vacant?

I don’t agree with hiring illegals. I have been active in the past with a group trying to get rid of them. BUT lately I am seeing how more and more people cannot afford to hire in some areas because of the prices they charge. My elderly parent’s furnace went out and the company wanted to charge them $85 just to come out and look. They can’t afford that. An illegal alien with the know-how would have probably done it for 20 bucks. There is far too much greed.


44 posted on 10/12/2010 11:49:58 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: only the truth

Slave wages. That’s what you are paying. Enjoy your house.


45 posted on 10/13/2010 12:39:27 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: TNdandelion

Are you just not getting what I am saying,I pay Johnny $18 an hour,Dan makes $21,Juan makes $15,these are not slave wages,for a little podunk town in Texas,they are well on their way to an American dream,Dan has been buying trailers,renovating them,and renting them out,Johnny is still having hard times but he now has a home and a truck,Juan,purchased a house several years ago,and both him and his wife are studying to become American citizens.And they are considering doing the same thing Dan is.


46 posted on 10/13/2010 12:54:33 AM PDT by only the truth
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To: only the truth
Oh...I get what you are saying. Why should YOU have to pay more for legitimate work when there are companies out there willing to charge you less because they employ illegals who get paid less and have fewer benefits and injury protections than legitimate companies.

The black market isn't just for imitation designer purses and fake prescription drugs. ;)

47 posted on 10/13/2010 1:12:21 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: only the truth

Well I guess you decided slave labor was the way to go.


48 posted on 10/13/2010 2:31:36 AM PDT by whershey
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To: calex59

We need to deport or imprison ALL illegal aliens, including their anchor babies, seal/secure the border with a WALL, and have a lethal response to anyone who tries to re-enter illegally. I’m sick and tired of these leeches.


49 posted on 10/13/2010 4:27:51 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: only the truth

“...At least I am not paying for them from birth till death!!!”

OH, YES YOU ARE!

Go and visit hospital emergency rooms.

Enough said.


50 posted on 10/13/2010 5:05:16 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything, it begins to rot.)
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To: only the truth

, (space bar)
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etc etc, it really is not that hard. See, you just put a nice little space behind your punctuation.


51 posted on 10/13/2010 5:17:32 AM PDT by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution. (ALWAYS FAITHFUL!))
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To: only the truth

“...Juan,purchased a house several years ago,and both him and his wife are studying to become American citizens.”

And.......how does all of this STUDY help them to become American citizens when they have already become criminals by breaking our laws and NOT following the proper channels of the LEGAL immigration process set forth in our laws?

Is that a slap in the face of all who have legally followed the process to become citizens in the past, and those who are already spending years in the pipeline to complete the process?

Another suggestion you have not followed in these threads-—————USE THE DAMN SPACEBAR!


52 posted on 10/13/2010 5:20:08 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything, it begins to rot.)
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To: only the truth
I think you all are misunderstanding me and what I am saying...

Nope...not misunderstanding at all. Here is what you are saying...but won't admit it (and I live in SE TX...Houston area...so I can't throw a dead cat without hitting an illegal): American's won't do the work AT THE PRICES you want them to do it.

As kennyboy stated: It would be NO PROBLEM to run a landscaping business with whites, blacks and hispanic AMERICAN citizens. But...people who hire illegals drive the price of labor DOWN. There would be no problem finding skilled sheet-rockers...tape and floaters who were Americans if sub contractors and home owners would have paid proper wages. But...everyone wants the cheapest they can get and are willing to break the law in order to get it.

Now understand this: When YOU do that...two things happen - 1) You drive the price / labor hour down and 2) When you drive the price per labor hour down...you drive away talented craftsmen who could do the work but won't do it for that price...because they have a higher standard of living than an illegal immigrant who will share an apartment with 10 of his buddies and ship all the money back home.

Now...are you suggesting that an AMERICAN worker doesn't deserve a higher standard of living than his sheet-rocking illegal counterpart?

And I speak all of this from experience. 1) As a college student...my union pipe fitting father (RIP dad) ENSURED that I worked construction during the summer here in SE TX...so that I would be properly motivated to finish college. I worked construction (Phillips refinery...and also in a landscaping biz) with them. Many of them lived with other guys who were illegal and here on a green card. That's why they could make $5/hr and live it up...they pooled their money during the week and drove home on the weekend. I have also rebuilt a house after a fire. Dealt with subcontractors hiring illegals.

53 posted on 10/13/2010 5:33:47 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: DH

Arizona taxpayers owed $1 billion from illegal immigration

http://www.kvoa.com/news/arizona-taxpayers-owed-1-billion-from-illegal-immigration/

“The cost of illegal immigration has exhausted the Arizona State Treasury. In order to pay for the federal government’s responsibility of securing our national borders and incarcerating individuals who enter the United States illegally and commit crimes, the state has incurred hundreds of millions of dollars of debt to pay these bills,” said Treasurer Dean Martin.


The Arizona budget deficit is $1.5 billion. Arizona spends $1.3 billion a year providing benefits to illegals, educating them, and incarcerating them. And that’s not counting the anchor babies.


54 posted on 10/13/2010 5:53:27 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: only the truth

I live in Texas, I spent years doing heavy labor, and I’m white. You’re hiring illegals, you’re part of the problem. Actually, you’re a huge part of the problem, I would shut your ass down if I knew who you were.


55 posted on 10/13/2010 6:16:09 AM PDT by Flightdeck (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: only the truth
They are criminals. They entered the country illegally, jumping ahead of all the responsible people waiting in line. Moreover, most all carried a 50lb drug load on their back when they came north, as that was the way to pay the coyote.

When their group is stopped, many actually physically fight (swarm) the Border Patrol Agent. The Agent can't subdue them all and you want to reward the ones that attacked the Border Patrol Agents and got away. I am astounded.

Sorry, the image of the poor, suffering peon struggling north for a meager job to support his family is nonsense at worse, exceptionally rare at best. They are drug smugglers and gangsters, and criminals for using stolen social security numbers.

Why don't you give your social security number to the illegals, if it is no big deal? That is what you are encouraging them to do to other Americans. But hey, as long as you get your home built, no big deal.

56 posted on 10/13/2010 7:16:25 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: only the truth
“Juan,purchased a house several years ago,and both him and his wife are studying to become American citizens.”

Only way that would happen is if he applied legally, and because he is here illegally, and when caught, he will NEVER get his citizenship. How can he possibly think he can get citizenship by studying for a test? He has to apply from Mexico, or, if here legally, through the proper channels. He can't apply where he is because he is an illegal alien.

Tell me where he is and I'll get ICE on this. Perhaps “Juan” better leave now, as he will get caught and he will lose any chance of citizenship.

57 posted on 10/13/2010 7:22:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: only the truth

“I live in Texas,and most of the illegals are hard working folks,that are just trying to make a buck.That is not to say there aren’t some very bad people among them,but then ask me if I would take a vacation in Detroit,St.Louis,New Orlean’s,Washington? At least I am not paying for them from birth till death!!!”

There is no comparison between the corruption and lawlessness between the US and that hell hole south of us. How did Mexico get so out of control? The Mexican culture is much more tolerant of crime and corruption. Illegals have broken the law to get here, many have committed identity theft,welfare fraud, not assimilated, abused our social service, etc... Many of their offspring have become gang members that terrorize our towns. We’ve seen hundreds of thousands of illegals march in the streets denouncing America and praising their native land. I say go back to your beloved homeland and work to fix it!


58 posted on 10/13/2010 8:00:23 AM PDT by doc
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To: rdl6989

The filthy pigs in the white house has said nothing about what is going on with these Mexican murders or anything about the boy they killed..I can bet their law suit for Arizona is still going on..I think obama is getting paid by the Mexican drug pusher,wonder how much he has made so far..More than likely the moneys are going through a second party..Could that be the reason he has no interest in these murders..


59 posted on 10/13/2010 8:11:34 AM PDT by PLD (When you receive a kindness,remember it;when you bestow one,forget it)
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To: only the truth

“we have 1/5 of our Americans refusing to pay their debts and leaving us to pick up the pieces,we have 42% getting our tax dollars free ,with all the health care ,rent payments,dental,food,lucky them!!! And they pay no taxes(must be nice)”

If only we could get rid of the welfare system, those lazy bums would have to get off their fat asses and work to survive, thus increasing the supply of laborers and lowering the cost of labor. Alas, it will never happen.


60 posted on 10/13/2010 12:14:14 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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