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Mystery shipwreck found in central Stockholm [ Sweden ]
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Posted on 11/30/2010 4:26:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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posted on
11/30/2010 4:26:11 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
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posted on
11/30/2010 4:30:06 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: SunkenCiv
"The planks of the ship are not nailed down, but sewn together with rope."Which is probably the reason it was a shipwreck.
Hmmmm... well I guess that didn't work, Olaf, maybe we should try nails...
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posted on
11/30/2010 4:42:52 AM PST
by
Hatteras
To: SunkenCiv
The vessel was built with an almost completely unknown technology, Is David Hackworth and the alien/Nazi tech team going to do a report on this?
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posted on
11/30/2010 4:56:24 AM PST
by
Cowman
(How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
To: SunkenCiv
With the exception of another ship found in 1896, all other shipwrecks uncovered in and around the Stockholm harbour have featured planks that were nailed together. Wonder what the "ship found in 1896" was held together with -- not nails or rope! Maybe it was carved in one piece from a really big tree . . . but you'd think they'd mention that . . .
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:01:03 AM PST
by
maryz
To: SunkenCiv
BTW, how do you "sew" planks together with rope? As opposed to tying them together, I mean. Serious question -- I wish they'd included a diagram or something.
And how are they sure about the rope? Wouldn't it have disintegrated over a few hundred years?
It really is amazing how little I know about ship-building, I guess! :(
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:04:30 AM PST
by
maryz
To: Hatteras
Which is probably the reason it was a shipwreck.
I'm with you. The Vasa sank on it's maiden voyage because it was a poor top-heavy design.
This new shipwreck sounds like another victim of natural selection.
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:14:56 AM PST
by
BitWielder1
(Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
To: SunkenCiv
Came from the east baltic states or Russia. Notice it must have gotten to sweden and then sunk or was sunk. In the cold depths virtually evrything is preservd, so the wood would not rot.
I figured it out it is was a Polish Man of War Ship and it invaded Sweden and it sunk. there is an old saying how do you sink a Polish Ship - put it in water. No offense to Poles.
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posted on
11/30/2010 6:07:35 AM PST
by
hondact200
( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
To: SunkenCiv
Ancient peoples knew full well that you learn from experience. The credo of experimental shipbuilders was, “If they drown, they drown.”
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posted on
11/30/2010 6:08:56 AM PST
by
decimon
To: Hatteras
Actually, that's not a “completely unknown technology.”
It also turns out relatively flexible ship that that is resistant to the waves. Sort of “goes with the flow” as it were.
I guess it was just unknown in Scandinavia.
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posted on
11/30/2010 6:11:52 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
To: SunkenCiv
Just so you are aware the Baltic states (Estonia, Lativa and Lithunia) were considerd part of Poland in 1600. There were a series of wars between Poland and Sweden from 1599 - 1611 (treaty signed in 1608) and again in the 1620s. the Polish Naval Fleet was in its infancy, however it used modern naval tactics.
So my joke and hypothese about the Polish Navy may just pay off.
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posted on
11/30/2010 6:19:07 AM PST
by
hondact200
( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
To: SunkenCiv
The swedes seem to cherish their sunken boats. For example, take the Vasa Museum, dedicated to a sunken boat.
To: Hatteras
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posted on
11/30/2010 8:30:34 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
To: SunkenCiv
"There goes our construction schedule...."
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posted on
11/30/2010 8:32:33 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
To: hondact200; SunkenCiv
Poland/Lithuania in 1600, at its greatest extent. Much of the Baltic Coast was lost to Sweden in the mid-century invasions by Sweden and Russia.
To: Cowman
Is David Hackworth and the alien/Nazi tech team going to do a report on this?It's a "Perfumed Prince" ship.
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:01:35 PM PST
by
Ole Okie
(American.)
To: colorado tanker
At the peak, the Grand Duchy stretched between the Baltic and the Black Seas. Didn’t last long though.
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:39:11 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: SunkenCiv
Drove it right up on the quay, eh?
“What shall we do with a drunken sailor, early in the morning?”
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posted on
11/30/2010 5:40:35 PM PST
by
wildbill
(You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
To: SunkenCiv
Poland has an unfortunate geography, being situated between the Germans and Russians.
To: colorado tanker
Hey, nobody had a gun to their head to move there. ;’)
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posted on
11/30/2010 6:06:51 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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