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Can God Save America? Will He? Should He?
Yahoo/AC ^ | Dec. 2nd, 2010 | Sherry Tomfeld

Posted on 12/02/2010 8:38:47 AM PST by stillafreemind

Are there enough Christians left that put God over everything else? Will they pray hard enough to garner favor from God for America's future? Is that even a good idea? Maybe its always been about choices and a chosen few. Moses came off of the mount in time to see people worshiping a golden calf. Yet in the end, the true believers made it to the promised land.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: american; god; savingamerica
I have often wondered this myself. I have no doubt that God CAN save America. I just wonder WHY God would want to.
1 posted on 12/02/2010 8:38:50 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind

He will. NFL receivers, maybe not, but the USA, He will.


2 posted on 12/02/2010 8:39:55 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: stillafreemind

Can He? Yes. Will He? Maybe. Should He? Not my call, but I hope so.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 12/02/2010 8:41:38 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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To: stillafreemind

God saves individuals, not collectives.


4 posted on 12/02/2010 8:43:40 AM PST by DManA
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To: stillafreemind

No on all three counts. We are doomed.


5 posted on 12/02/2010 8:45:29 AM PST by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: stillafreemind

If it’s His sovereign will to save America (Not even sure what that means) it will be saved. If its His will that America be allowed to destroy itself, then His will be done.


6 posted on 12/02/2010 8:46:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: stillafreemind

You have a point there. I always thought that the good times are the most important to remember God and in times of hardship, he’ll look out for you. But since America shoved Him out during the good times, He may well leave us to flounder.


7 posted on 12/02/2010 8:48:40 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

I tinks a lot of it is in the peoples hands.

Hows that go? “God helps those who ? Help Themselves!”

America has been suffering deterioration and dilution for some time.... and needs to change and mend its ways. First step? Get the muslim out of the White House. I cant see him helping America any farther as long as a Musilim is there.
Its not Islam that built the “west”, its Christianity...Obama is a Muslim wanabe or Wahabe

“One of the prettiest sounds on earth” is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset.
Barack Hussein Obama as quoted by Nicholas D. Kristof in the New York Times - March 6, 2007

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

• His biological father was a Muslim.
http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/?title=Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.&src=abop&qpvt=barack+obama+seniot&q=barack+obama+senior&fwd=1

• Because his biological father was a Muslim the Islam world thinks he is a Muslim.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2010/08/obama_is_a_muslim_18_24_or.html?hpid=topnews
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• His stepfather was a Muslim.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

• As a child Barry was enrolled in school as a Muslim in Jakarta Indonesia. An Indonesian Madrasa.
• Barack Hussein Obama’s first and middle names are Arabic Muslim names.
Barack was the name for Mohammad’s horse. Husein, enough said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700246419/Barack-Muhammads-horse.html
http://sanooaung.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/will-be-obama-with-us-muslims-as-the-meaning-of-his-name-in-persian-language/

• Obama recited the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer, which includes a vow of fidelity to Islam, in flawless Arabic on a radio program. - Nikolos Kristoff, NYTs, 3-06-07 (***this one is a gottcha moment***)
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679

• On that same program he said he thinks the call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth.”
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

• Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289

• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp

• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/

• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama does not give gifts on Christmas.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12035.html

• Obama doesn’t celebrate his birthday.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/a-tough-birthday-for-obama/

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp

• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/

• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm

• “The American President told me in confidence that he is a Muslim,” said Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Nile TV.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/bombshell-egyptian-foreign-minister-ahmed-aboul-gheit-says-on-egyptian-tv-%e2%80%9cthe-american-president-told-me-in-confidence-that-he-is-still-a-muslim-%e2%80%9d/
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=166905

• Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail

• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html

• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

Be wary, wary aware ....and wary, wary afraid...get prepared for more creeping sharia...more than what is coming out of the White House today


8 posted on 12/02/2010 8:51:39 AM PST by himno hero
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To: stillafreemind

I have been with Christians in the former Soviet Union.
They were sober, vigilant, tested, deeply rooted.
They made me ashamed of my superficiality. I went with a group. We entertwined American patriotism with Christianity. I can’t describe the self-revulsion I felt for myself in thinking I had anything to offer Christians who know the reality of severe persecution.
I would not pray for persecution. That would be very foolish. But it’s not about saving America. It’s about what God will do in the hearts of individuals in these times.
I am not saying I live up to this, but the following hymn is very precious to me, and I do pray that God would impress the reality of it in my life with same understanding as the person who wrote the hymn. You might say, “No testing, no glory.”

CHRIST IS ALL, AND HE IS MINE
Why should I fear the darkest hour,
Or tremble at the tempters power;
When Jesus is my Might Tower?
Christ is all, and He is mine.
Tho’ hard the fight,
Why quit the field;
Why should I shrink, why should I yield;
When Jesus is my Mighty Shield?
Christ is all, and He is mine.
When creature comforts fade and die,
The world may weep, but why should ?
Jesus still lives, and He is nigh.
Christ is all, and He is mine.
I know not what may soon betide,
Or how my wants may be supplied;
But Jesus knows, and will provide.
Christ is all, and He is mine.
Tho’ faint my prayers, and cold my love,
My steadfast hope shall not remove;
While Jesus intercedes above.
Christ is all, and He is mine.
Against me, earth and hell combine;
But on my side, is Power Divine.
In the darkest hour, His glory shines.
Christ is all, and He is mine.


9 posted on 12/02/2010 8:57:16 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: stillafreemind

Psalms 106:35-43 (NASV)

“But they mingled with the nations,
And learned their practices (works),
And served their idols,
Which became a snare to them.
They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons,
And shed innocent blood,
The blood of their sons and their daughters,
Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan;
And the land was polluted with the blood.
Thus they became unclean in their practices (works),
And played the harlot in their deeds.
Therefore the anger of the Lord was kindled against His people,
And He abhorred His inheritance (people).
Then He gave them into the hand of the nations (gentiles); And those who hated them ruled over them.
Their enemies also oppressed them,
And they were subdued under their power (hand).
Many times He would deliver them;
They, however, were rebellious in their counsel,
And so sank down in their iniquity.”

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Do you think God will be just? He is justice, but He always saves a remnant of believers. When Israel was invaded, the “blessed” were not killed but became slaves and eventually (70 years later) were allowed to return to Israel. Where were they? In Babylon.

God is just. He can do nothing less. We can only get on our faces and repent of ALL the evil we have legalized.


10 posted on 12/02/2010 8:59:17 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: DManA

Yes, God saves individuals, but He has rules for nations.


11 posted on 12/02/2010 9:02:33 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Well said.


12 posted on 12/02/2010 9:03:14 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: stillafreemind
2 Chronicles 7:14 is God's promise with a condition:

If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and change their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive them and heal their land.

Americans have to change their ways.

We pray, but there comes a time when Christians must shine the light of truth on darkness and change what is unpleasing to God.

13 posted on 12/02/2010 9:05:23 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: stillafreemind
People who write articles like this have a very narrow view of the world. That view seems to include only the U.S. and, sometimes, Canada. Can anyone seriously say that America has turned its back on God more than France, Sweden, Nigeria, Papua New Guinea, Iceland, South Korea, Myanmar, Australia, Denmark, Japan, etc. etc.? It's not even close. Those countries, and many, many others, have fallen so far from God that they don't even have a reference point from which to ask, "Can God save us?" The question wouldn't occur to them.


14 posted on 12/02/2010 9:23:36 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: SnakeDoctor

HE is the only one who can save America. No offense God but don’t send Jesus. This is a job for you.( I really mean it Lord. About Jesus I mean. Please don’t be mad.)


15 posted on 12/02/2010 6:29:53 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: stillafreemind

Are we willing to put our lives on the line?


16 posted on 12/02/2010 6:30:59 PM PST by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: WestwardHo

How frighten those who don’t know Jesus must be during these troubled times. People seem frantic in their denial.


17 posted on 12/03/2010 3:44:21 PM PST by donna (Conservatives believe in God, Family, Country. Not money, money, money.)
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