"Brother, don't I know it."
Posted on 12/03/2010 9:40:21 AM PST by OldDeckHand
Presumption ... there have been plenty of extinctions since the flood.
How many are required?
I was in public schools for grades 4-12. Approx. 9 years after my brain come on-line (which happened a few years after my regeneration. I'd "bought into" the irrational pietistic variety of Christian experience), I found myself able to agree with God that He did, indeed, as he said, take six days to create the world. It took me about a year of serious Christian thinking to undo each year of publicly funded indoctrination.
New Agers profess awe and adoration towards an evolving deity inside an evolving universe. Gods are a subset of man's evolving experience.[1] Serious Christians view us as a subset of God's created universe. These are two irreconcilable perspectives, despite what Teilhard de Chardin might assert. Parents who think it safe to raise their children in both religions simultaneously are gambling with the eternal destinies, and the temporal capabilities, of their children.
(parenthetically -- many dispensationalists are comfortable with vast eons behind us -- perhaps explained by the "gap" between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 -- but assume a rigidly constrained future. Orthodox post-mil Christians tend to find themselves comfortable with a brief historic past, and look forward to thousands of years ahead.)
[1] I need to quote G K Chesterton again!
Of all conceivable forms of enlightenment the worst is what these people call the Inner Light. Of all horrible religions the most horrible is the worship of the god within. Any one who knows any body knows how it would work; any one who knows any one from the Higher Thought Centre knows how it does work. That Jones shall worship the god within him turns out ultimately to mean that Jones shall worship Jones. Let Jones worship the sun or moon, anything rather than the Inner Light; let Jones worship cats or crocodiles, if he can find any in his street, but not the god within. Christianity came into the world firstly in order to assert with violence that a man had not only to look inwards, but to look outwards, to behold with astonishment and enthusiasm a divine company and a divine captain. The only fun of being a Christian was that a man was not left alone with the Inner Light, but definitely recognized an outer light, fair as the sun, clear as the moon, terrible as an army with banners.
It seems like one of us wasn't paying attention in their collegiate critical thinking class. You should try to re-familiarize yourself with terms like logic, reason, probability. There is a tremendous divide between assumption and inference.
My problem is with that perv Donald running around with no pants on.
"Brother, don't I know it."
LOL
LOL ... Only in two cases: When you are an undergraduate ... and when the sample size is large.
Not to mention the questionable guardianship of his juvenile "nephews".
No, I meant dear. That's how we roll in my family. When one of us assumes room temperature, we take 'em to the funeral home strapped to the hood. :)
Yes, that masters in applied mathematics and the PhD in electrical engineering didnt even remotely prepare me for the intellectual onslaught of an undergraduate evo thread ... lol.
He who lacks imagination lacks intelligence...
If you fail to read any of the opposing points of view then you fail to see how this event was entirely possible and probable.
101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2264681/posts
Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
“Ah yes, the storied objectivity of the Darwinian illuminati” ~ P8riot
Darwinian?
“Which theory of evolution are you talking about?
“...What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology.
A theory is a metascientific elaboration distinct from the results of observation, but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory’s validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.
Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy.
And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution.
On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based.
Hence the existence of materialist, reductionist, and spiritualist interpretations. What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.
Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider _the spirit_ as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person. ...”
Excerpted from:
Theories of Evolution
John Paul II
Copyright (c) 1997 First Things 71 (March 1997): 28-29. Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 22, 1996
22 posted on 05/25/2007 8:41:28 AM EDT by Matchett-PI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839540/posts?page=22#22
Ummm...the Great Bustard bird has been known to weigh up to 46 pounds reference here. So there goes your "physically impossible" claim right off the bat.
Nice.
Thx.
True science takes all the data and information into account - it does not pick and choose only that which supports its inherent bias.
“He who lacks imagination lacks intelligence...If you fail to read any of the opposing points of view then you fail...” ~ BrandtMichaels
True.
“According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the ‘Big Bang’ and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5 - 4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution. While the story of human origins is complex and subject to revision, physical anthropology and molecular biology combine to make a convincing case for the origin of the human species in Africa about 150,000 years ago in a humanoid population of common genetic lineage. However it is to be explained, the decisive factor in human origins was a continually increasing brain size, culminating in that of homo sapiens. With the development of the human brain, the nature and rate of evolution were permanently altered: with the introduction of the uniquely human factors of consciousness, intentionality, freedom and creativity, biological evolution was recast as social and cultural evolution.” (From the International Theological Commission, headed by then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger now Pope Benedict XVI, statement “Communion and Stewardship: Human Persons Created in the Image of God,” plenary sessions held in Rome 2000-2002, published July 2004)
Source: Evidence for Evolution and an Old Earth, a Catholic Perspective
http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/p14.htm
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