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Gallup Poll: 4 in 10 Americans still hold creationist views
Science on MSNBC ^ | 12/19/2010

Posted on 12/20/2010 7:19:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: IbJensen

Anthony Wiener?

Proof that DEVO was right.


141 posted on 12/20/2010 10:39:53 AM PST by Poser (Enjoying tasty animals for 58 years)
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To: Natural Law

I think you are referring to an old testament scripture...

Walt Brown Ph.D. describes how the Earth’s outer crust (10 miles thick) would have rested upon pillars in support of his hydroplate theory. How the fountains (subterranean waters) of the great deep broke open during Noah’s Flood.

See my links page or post #40 of this thread for his online creation science book - part 2 describes details involved in the hydroplate theory which I believe was built on top of Henry Morris’ work in ‘The Genesis Flood’


142 posted on 12/20/2010 10:42:24 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: upsdriver
"The total bs is the media using the 10,000 year template to “ridicule” bible believing Christians. No one knows."

You can't say 'no one knows'. What you mean is that you don't know.

I know. So do others.

143 posted on 12/20/2010 10:50:03 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan

Don’t forget - God knows


144 posted on 12/20/2010 10:51:36 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels
"Don’t forget - God knows".

The only One who was there from 'the beginning'. :-)

145 posted on 12/20/2010 10:53:19 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
"Rut Roh. Looks like another oopsie."

You mean the Bible is completely literal except when it isn't?

146 posted on 12/20/2010 10:55:00 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: BrandtMichaels

>>In it there is a picture of a fossilized dinosaur footprint with a human footprint embedded within it.<<

I’ve never said that man and dinosaurs did not coexist. Dinosaurs not since Gen 1:2 however. The Bible does describe Lucifer as ruler of the earth before he fell.

>>Also in the Book of Job are descriptions of behemoth and leviathon.<<

I think Job speaks of the leviathan but most all scholars today agree that was a crocodile. Behemoth is spoken of in the Bible only one time and no one really knows what it was.

For the Coelacanth and other sea creatures to have survived the first destruction of this world is not beyond comprehension, in fact very probable. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

There was water covering the land so some of the sea creatures survived. It’s also not inconceivable that the Wolemi pine seeds survived. Who knows how many other plants or sea species survived which are now extinct or not yet know about.

Bottom line to me is that both Biblically and Scientifically the gap between Gen1:1 and Gen 1:2 makes more sense.


147 posted on 12/20/2010 10:55:38 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
"You mean the Bible is completely literal except when it isn't?"

No, I mean your reference to pillars and the link to The Four Pillars of the Standard Cosmology .

148 posted on 12/20/2010 10:58:31 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Natural Law; editor-surveyor; GourmetDan

Nope NL- I think it means you and e-s could/should be more clear when making veiled Biblical references.

Now when can I expect either of you to respond to my post?


149 posted on 12/20/2010 10:58:37 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Natural Law; editor-surveyor

Cue the crickets for response to my post #142


150 posted on 12/20/2010 11:01:43 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: GourmetDan
and you are the guy who believes in evolution

I don't believe in evolution. Like other well-established scientific theories, I accept it as the best current explanation for phenemona that science has to offer.

Therefore you are the one who needs to supply the equation showing decreased entropy on the Earth

You're the one saying it applies, so show me how it applies. For reference, the Earth absorbs about 120 petajoules of energy from the Sun per second. That's 160,000 times the world's nuclear power generation for an entire year.

151 posted on 12/20/2010 11:06:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: GourmetDan; editor-surveyor

>>List them here.<<

The internet allows for very easy research and study. Take advantage of it. I have things I would better be doing.

You see, whether you believe it or not will make no changes in my life and surely doesn’t impact ones Salvation.

Science and the Bible do not disagree unless you try to box God into the last 6-7000 years or try some conviluted interpretation of Scripture to try to explain away scientific findings.


152 posted on 12/20/2010 11:08:03 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: BrandtMichaels

Ya...read all of that a dozen years ago....


153 posted on 12/20/2010 11:12:55 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: CynicalBear

>>I’ve never said that man and dinosaurs did not coexist. Dinosaurs not since Gen 1:2 however.<<
Hmmm so before the original sin where death and destruction entered the Earth, the dinosaur and a whole bunch of other animals went extinct - before death right?

>>I think Job speaks of the leviathan but most all scholars today agree that was a crocodile. Behemoth is spoken of in the Bible only one time and no one really knows what it was.<< Hmmm and yet his tail was compared to a tree trunk and in fact could be matched w/ anyones description of a dinosaur?

>>For the Coelacanth and other sea creatures to have survived the first destruction of this world is not beyond comprehension, in fact very probable.<<
Hmmm not very probable for evolution to leave anything that old as an exact replica of a modern-day ‘fossil - is it?

Things that make you go hmmmm...


154 posted on 12/20/2010 11:13:20 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be interesting to see what repub POTUS contenders believe: Sarah? Mitt? Huck? Newt? Others?


155 posted on 12/20/2010 11:14:30 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

So, why isn’t the headline “78% believe in Creation!”


156 posted on 12/20/2010 11:14:59 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: G Larry

Dr Brown’s book has been through 2 revisions at least in the last 10-12 years. The 8th edition is considerably larger than the 7th.


157 posted on 12/20/2010 11:16:01 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

I can see nothing that justifies a ‘response’ to whatever you think you’re saying in 142.

Perhaps a bit of expansion is in order?


158 posted on 12/20/2010 11:16:48 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
"I don't believe in evolution. Like other well-established scientific theories, I accept it as the best current explanation for phenemona that science has to offer."

OK, I'll use your term of choice.

"You're the one saying it applies, so show me how it applies."

Wrong again. You just said that you are the one who 'accepts' evolution therefore you need to show decreasing entropy on the Earth on a massive scale from solar energy in order to 'accept' evolution. I don't 'accept' or believe it.

"For reference, the Earth absorbs about 120 petajoules of energy from the Sun per second. That's 160,000 times the world's nuclear power generation for an entire year."

While my skillet doesn't receive near that much energy from the burner, the scrambled eggs still just get cooked. No decrease in entropy there either.

159 posted on 12/20/2010 11:18:05 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: CynicalBear

As I suspected, there is nothing to support your comic book beliefs.

Or should we google “comic book?”


160 posted on 12/20/2010 11:18:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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