[caww]

. Just saying that in my case, there would have been no second date.

Exactly. There wouldn't have been if the issue was pushed.

[rbg81]

Honestly, I think (in your case), the guy was clearly using a tactic. I never have (or would) try that old schtick of asking for a kiss up front to dispell “tension”. Frankly, I only care about getting intimate if I want a second date. And I typically make that decision as the date is winding down, if everything has gone well. If I’m really interested at that point, I’ll press for more. If not, not.

Of course, I’ve been married for over 20 years, so I’ve been out of the dating game for quite a while. Can’t say I miss it much.