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OUR FAILURE IS GUARANTEED (9 Stages of Civilization.)
Ed Schultz Show ^ | 14 August, 2006 | Ed Schultz

Posted on 01/01/2011 5:44:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP

OUR FAILURE IS GUARANTEED (9 stages of Civilization)


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: civilization; decline
The average age of the World's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. America is now 235 years old. (Depending on the outlook.)

Most experts agree that we are somewhere between the 7th and 8th stage. Of course, this stage accelerates the process. Most Americans are too far gone to even understand what this means, nor do they care.

1 posted on 01/01/2011 5:44:19 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years.
These nations have progressed through this sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to selfishness;
6. from selfishness to complacency;
7. from complaceny to apathy;
8. from apathy to dependence;
9. from dependency back again into bondage.”
Sir Alex Fraser Tyler: (1742-1813) Scottish jurist and historian

"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."

President Ronald Reagan

Death Panels imposed by Mitt Romney (ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE).



2 posted on 01/01/2011 5:52:18 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The simple fact that Ed Schultz gets paid for what he does tells me that we are doomed.


3 posted on 01/01/2011 5:52:58 AM PST by Thom Pain (November 2, 2010, Step ONE. Repeal 17th, Step TWO. 11/6/2012, Step THREE)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m optimistic that we will not go down like those other civilizations. Instead it will go down in the next few years when the electrical grid goes down permanently (EMP, super solar flare like in 1921, computer virus like Israel used on Iran’s nuclear plants, read “How Long Can You Tread Water”.

All modern civilizations are totally dependent on electricity. A sudden loss of electricity for a week and the country would be in anarchy.

Oh, and happy new year.


4 posted on 01/01/2011 5:54:19 AM PST by Any Fate But Submission (How Long Can You Tread Water)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

Gas powered generators!!


5 posted on 01/01/2011 5:59:00 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

A solar flare would destroy the ignition module of the generator unless you had stored the unit in a Faraday cage.My older John Deere diesel tractors will start and run since they are a completely mechanical injector system.How long before we run out of fuel?


6 posted on 01/01/2011 6:04:57 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Diogenesis

Every time I see that photo with those swarmy f’ers,I get sick to my stomach.The only redeeming thing is the fact that the swimmer is currently roasting.


7 posted on 01/01/2011 6:07:24 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: sodpoodle

Propane can be stored for longer periods. (you can get a gas to propane converter and use both)


8 posted on 01/01/2011 6:09:56 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Diogenesis

The “Alex Fraser Tyler” quote is great, but bogus in origin.

Don’t feel badly. I reposted a bogus Cicero quote on treason for a long time until I discovered it was made up.


9 posted on 01/01/2011 6:10:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Thom Pain
Irony in and of itself for certain!

This, coming from Ed Schultz. All though, looking at his site, one concludes his other Marxist tripe takes priority over logic.

From Schultz's perspective, he sees apathy and complacency, as well as tyranny/Bondage as Conservatism. No doubt!

10 posted on 01/01/2011 6:11:37 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Diogenesis

marking...


11 posted on 01/01/2011 6:12:37 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Any Fate But Submission

Thanks, same to you.

One would also think that this cycle also completes itself within a civilization that retains it’s basic nationality or title. Great Britain is one of those, as well as the Roman Empire.

Cut electricity and country boys like me will survive and take over! (You know how the song goes.)


12 posted on 01/01/2011 6:16:11 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Isn’t Ed Schultz a left wingnut?

If so, and he buys this progression, isn’t he admitting that the liberal progressive philosophy is a death knell to freedom and the democratic republic?


13 posted on 01/01/2011 6:20:32 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Farmer Dean

Will my 1949 8-9 tractor continue to run? I don’t know much about this stuff. My tractor runs on regular gas.


14 posted on 01/01/2011 6:22:33 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Dudoight

That is 8-N tractor, not 8-9.


15 posted on 01/01/2011 6:23:08 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Why fear collapse???

Only the big guy up stairs knows when the Sh!t Will Hit The Fan.

If you have led a decent enough life, when it does happen, you’re one step closer to heaven.

I’m not some bible thumper but I know this to be true...


16 posted on 01/01/2011 6:24:45 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Diogenesis

What could be a more glaring example of complacency than this: “We must pass this bill so you can find out what’s in it.” And there was no public outcry!


17 posted on 01/01/2011 6:29:17 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

“All modern civilizations are totally dependent on electricity. A sudden loss of electricity for a week and the country would be in anarchy.”

Which explains why the libs were considering having Google maintain the grid.


18 posted on 01/01/2011 6:30:22 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I know that to be true also. However I have children to consider. I am profoundly concerned about the world in which they will have to live. I fear for them.


19 posted on 01/01/2011 6:31:41 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: Dudoight
"Isn’t Ed Schultz a left wingnut?"

Special Ed is a convert who shot his own dog.

20 posted on 01/01/2011 6:32:50 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Any Fate But Submission

The electrical grid will not go down permanently. But it might go down long enough to drive the big cities insane. Nothing goes down permanently, it can always be fixed. And in the rural and smaller cities, there will be enough real workers to get it back up and running. But the bigger cities will have to fight through the looters and anarchists and rioters to even get to where they need to be. It will not be pretty, but it will be an eye opener.

Just like the LA riots were an eye opener for the Asian communities. I wonder how many Asian business owners are now solid gun owners, with a gas generator on the side.


21 posted on 01/01/2011 6:34:13 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Dudoight

It should be fine.Gas engines with the older style ignition sustem(points,coil)should survive.Most solid state ignition systems will be ruined.That means all new cars won’t start.Most heavy trucks on the road have electronic control modules driving their fuel injection systems.So no food delivery,no fuel delivery.Most modern farm equipment will be rendered useless.I have some older tractors that will continue to function,but how much fuel,seed and fertilizer will I be able to find?And for how long?It will become a race to repair oil refineries,power stations,trucks,just about everything we need to sustain life.


22 posted on 01/01/2011 6:36:19 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Savage Beast
What could be a more glaring example of complacency than this: “We must pass this bill so you can find out what’s in it.” And there was no public outcry!

No. I was mistaken and overoptimistic. That is a glaring example of apathy. God help us!

23 posted on 01/01/2011 6:36:33 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

——The average age of the World’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.——

Do you have a list of those claimed?

I’m sure there are some but as a rule, I doubt it


24 posted on 01/01/2011 6:38:42 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: wbarmy

I had a long conversation with an involuntary evacuee from New Orleans after Katrina. They rounded up all the people on high ground and shipped them out. He got on a plane and ended up in Tennessee and was bewildered as to where he actually ended up.

He told me of the Asian shop keepers who shot the looters. The looters were not armed and were driven away from the well armed Asians


25 posted on 01/01/2011 6:46:39 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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Please do not be offended, but I dislike the term involuntary evacuee. Why did he not leave when the President asked everyone to leave? I know of plenty of people, both white and black, who packed up and moved out to other places until Katrina was over. My wife's BFF in college was one of them.
26 posted on 01/01/2011 6:52:06 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Theres no alternative to actual revolution..
No metaphorical allusion to it will do..

AT the later stages of rot actually "doing it" is required..
FREEDOM requires shedding of blood there is simply no other way..
Its a matter of who's blood... yours or "theirs".. and sometimes BOTH is required..

27 posted on 01/01/2011 6:53:01 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Farmer Dean

So, my 1979 chevy pick up (runs like a clock) will be fine, also. Obtaining fuel would certainly be a problem.

Also, I buy hay in the winter for my horses...that would be a real situation. I do have a bunch of reserve seeds for some ordinary produce.


28 posted on 01/01/2011 6:56:34 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: wbarmy

——Why did he not leave when the President asked everyone to leave? -——

He and others near by were not in harm’s way. Their houses and area was not badly damaged nor flooded/They had food and water and good dry shelter. He was a well known NO personage who rented his quarters from an elderly (90 ) man who had mobility problems. The journey was more dangerous than living where they were. There were also several elderly widows, all were in good shape till rounded up and flown off to Tennessee.


29 posted on 01/01/2011 7:02:19 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Any Fate But Submission
Generating one's own electricity for a few hours a day is not that tough, given that you have fuel to run a generator/car/tractor with an alternator/generator.

Owning a couple of inverters including a fairly sizable sign wave inverter can get one through for a few months (until the fuel runs out).

30 posted on 01/01/2011 7:22:14 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Most experts agree”? I call BS.

How about show me one .edu site that talks about the alleged “9 stages of civilization”. How about show me one valid historical/history site that talks about it.

The “9 stages of Civilization” is utter BS and anyone believing in this garbage are simply idiots who would buy mystery oil from a snake-oil salesman. =.=


31 posted on 01/01/2011 7:24:12 AM PST by cranked
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yes, the danger is real, clear and present. However, unlike those failed civilizations of the past, we have their histories and Ed Schultz to warn and guide us.


32 posted on 01/01/2011 7:25:31 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

What a wonderfully positive way to start this new year! We’re DOOMED, DOOMED, I tell you!


33 posted on 01/01/2011 8:03:24 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

This again, huh.

Please state the specific “great civilizations” used to calculate the 200 year average, as well as the criteria used to put them into the group. Also the starting and stopping points and how they were determined.

Please point out ANY civilization that has ever followed the specific path outlined in your nine steps.

Which “experts” are you referencing, and what poll is your statement that most of them think we are between 7 and 8 based on?

High-sounding malarkey.


34 posted on 01/01/2011 8:04:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Le Chien Rouge

There is no such thing as just “leading a decent life” and then being allowed into heaven. To a perfect God no man is decent. Only by faith are we saved. You can read Romans to see what Paul says about it.


35 posted on 01/01/2011 9:28:31 AM PST by plain talk
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

It is inevitable.


36 posted on 04/07/2013 8:34:43 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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