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How to respond to an Active Shooter with your CCW pistol.
1/10/2011 | Vanity

Posted on 01/10/2011 8:03:13 PM PST by Ramius

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To: Ramius

And as far as the police, I am putting the gun down and placing my hands up and declaring that I have a CHL and I was a responder.


21 posted on 01/10/2011 8:36:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ramius

Saw on Fox n Friends this morning...one of the responders was a CCW holder going about his business. Look it up, cuz I’ll paraphrase.

He claims that he heard shots, came around the corner with his hand in his CCW jacket pocket, saw the supposed shooter on the ground with a man standing over him with the slide locked in a non-threatening manner. CCW holder removed his hand and went over to assist in restraining the shooter.

If true, and not a super cool hindsight moment of what-if’s, this is responsible response to a shooting.

Recap:

Evaluate threat and surroundings.
Keep cool and do not shoot the first gun wielder you see.
Assist in alerted capacity.

I’ve thought about my own response in a hopefully never encountered situation. I can imagine a violent gun-wielding offender as not appearing too much like a cop, as he is methodically shooting his victims. I would assume that the safest way for me to present myself in the equation is to act as similarly to a responsible LEO as possible. For example, command presence verbally, announce yourself as a responder, as in...”Stop! Drop your weapon! I will be forced to shoot!,” and the like.

I’m not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express at some point, so take my advice as you wish.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 8:37:25 PM PST by BigBlueJon ("And shepherds we shall be....For Thee, my Lord, for Thee....")
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To: Lazamataz

Oh... and I forgot to add: If the shooter is female, don’t worry - Laz will hit it and she will have to stop shooting!


23 posted on 01/10/2011 8:37:41 PM PST by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Lazamataz

Just a thought: The guy or gal shooting willy nilly, especially targeting innocents is probably the bad guy. The guy moving in a tactical manner attempting to close on the willy nilly guy in order to observe or engage is probably a good guy.

I also teach rapid response. We teach to respond to the gun shots.

That being said: keep your firearm either concealed or in low ready. I would follow all of the advice previously listed and make sure your loved ones are secured or evacuated.


24 posted on 01/10/2011 8:37:46 PM PST by midcop402
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To: ctdonath2
You get you and yours to safety thru the back of the nearest store.

Absolutely. The first choice for civilians, armed or unarmed in an active shooter situation is to escape.

25 posted on 01/10/2011 8:41:41 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: mylife

I don’t know why we are even discussing this. Just post a “no guns allowed” sign and this would not happen. Just ask a Liberal. All we need is more laws. (s)


26 posted on 01/10/2011 8:46:52 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: Travis McGee

Some good stuff there, Travis.

You make a good point, about keeping the weapon out of sight except when you’re actively using it. But is that realistic? If I’ve taken a couple of shots at a shooter, presuming without effect... and he’s moving, so I have to move and seek some other cover.... is it really going to occur to me to re-holster and conceal my weapon?

When he cops come in... do we just then give the situation over to them? I suppose we do. But still there’s the part about not getting shot.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 8:47:22 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: BOBWADE

Good point.

What the heck was I thinking?


28 posted on 01/10/2011 8:49:01 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ramius
Too complicated.

You go to the source of the sound and you shoot the somb!tch dead.

29 posted on 01/10/2011 8:53:35 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

Ideally, yes... and then the cops see you with a gun in your hand and kill you.

There’s been some good comments on this. I hope we get some more.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 8:55:52 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: ctdonath2
"Analogy: Two guys shoving an attractive woman into a car at gunpoint as she screams “rape” could be two undercover cops taking down an uncoopertive hooker."

Then I say blast 'em. They should have to pay her, just like everyone else.

8^D

31 posted on 01/10/2011 8:58:29 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ Bachmann 2012... just call it "Pa-Bach!" (AKA "Liberal Head Cemtex"))
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To: Ramius

On YouTube:

1. find ‘nutnfancy’.
2. look to find “Sheepdpg Concept”, and “Close To Engage”.

Well thought-out videos, more than 3 minutes long, so be ready.


32 posted on 01/10/2011 8:59:31 PM PST by Prussianone
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To: Ramius

I pray I never have to do anything beyond defending myself or loved ones.
I dont even want to experience that, but at least you might have time to call the cops and report the scenario yourself, so they don’t ventilate you when they respond.


33 posted on 01/10/2011 9:02:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Ramius

“How do we recognize each other?”

I’m tall, brown hair, blue eyes and a beard. More than likely I’ll be the enormous guy with the Keltec 32 ACP barely sticking out of my hand. Or some days, a Series 70 Gold Cup. Or a Model 15 Smith. Or something else.


34 posted on 01/10/2011 9:04:24 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Ramius

And if you’ve saved an innocent, the risk was worth it.


35 posted on 01/10/2011 9:09:00 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Ramius

My concealed firearm is first and foremost for my own personal protection.
I am not a cop.
It is not my responsibility to defend the public and get my self killed, or possibly hurt innocent people by shooting back into a chaotic situation unless I absolutely HAVE to...ie: I see no other way out and I know I’m going to be targeted/killed.
Shooting should always be the last resort.


36 posted on 01/10/2011 9:09:08 PM PST by two23 (Liberals Have Created a Culture of Lies)
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To: two23

Agreed.


37 posted on 01/10/2011 9:17:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: two23

Even if things come out your way, are you prepared for the legal fees that are about to come your way in the defense of strangers?

I would not wish to be in that situation.


38 posted on 01/10/2011 9:20:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BOBWADE

I forgot who said it but I think it was Dr Ignatius who runs Front Sight; in a real life situation you are only going to be functioning at 70% of your skill level due to the stress and adrenalin of the moment. So basically unless you have been through On Point Tactical or Front Sight you are more likely to get yourself killed or kill bystanders in a Mall shooting situtation. You are much better off to get yourself and whoever else you can to safety. If you need to use your weapon along the way then so be it.
CCL is for self defense. You are not the police and you are not carrying an assault weapon. Run away from the sound of gunfire.


39 posted on 01/10/2011 9:22:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BigBlueJon

“For example, command presence verbally, announce yourself as a responder, as in...”Stop! Drop your weapon! I will be forced to shoot!,” and the like.”

I’m not sure that is the best idea - just shoot him.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 9:24:11 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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