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To: SomeCallMeTim

“It’s not unprecedented for a girl to be saying YES, YES, YES in the evening... and, then remember it as NO, NO, NO in the morning.”

No, it’s not, and such is the danger of having daliances outside marriage. It can endly badly for everyone, even consenting adults.

I want to dig into the underlying poll language, in Hebrew, but I am too busy today.

There are all “kinds” of unlawful sexual intercourse in Israel, from: (A) traditional rape; (B) age-related issues; (C) drug/special persons who cannot consent (e.g., mentally ill); (D) rape by fraud (e.g., pretending to be someone you are not), etc.

A is not D and C is not B.

Doesn’t make anyone of them legal or not “wrong.”


20 posted on 01/18/2011 8:59:07 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

RE: There are all “kinds” of unlawful sexual intercourse in Israel, from: (A) traditional rape; (B) age-related issues; (C) drug/special persons who cannot consent (e.g., mentally ill); (D) rape by fraud (e.g., pretending to be someone you are not), etc.


Does forcing yourself on an acquaintance (the subject of the poll ) belong to the category of A above ?

I would say it SHOULD. After all, if FORCE is being used, then I can’t think of putting it in any other category whether the person knows you or not.


23 posted on 01/18/2011 9:09:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Jewbacca

RE: rape by fraud (e.g., pretending to be someone you are not)


I find this to be an interesting definition of “rape”.

For me, the most common element that makes the word — rape what it is is -— the victim has sex INVOLUNTARILY ( either through FORCE or MENTAL INCAPACITY ).

Now, if the victim thinks you’re Tom Cruise (when you really aren’t ) and consents to have sex with you... I’m not sure if rape can be used here. After all, the victim VOLUNTARILY CONSENTS. It is FRAUD, no doubt, but RAPE ??

AS for age -— there’s a term for it which society thinks of as even worse than rape — Paedophilia.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 9:14:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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