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In Observance of Black History Month
Wikipedia (in part); Barnes Review (in part); edited by me | Not | Me (mostly)

Posted on 02/01/2011 10:14:11 AM PST by ExGeeEye

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Well, there it is. Do with it what you will.
1 posted on 02/01/2011 10:14:18 AM PST by ExGeeEye
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I was watching public television the other day and that black professor (I don’t remember his name, went to the beer summit with zero) showed Chris Rock that his ancestors had been slaves held by American Indians. Blew his mind. He said something to the effect of, “I don’t know how to feel about that. I always considered both blacks and Indians as being suppressed by whites.” And so on.


2 posted on 02/01/2011 10:20:01 AM PST by youngidiot
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To: ExGeeEye

If he had lived today, he’d surely be a transfer payment slave on the Democrats’ Plantation, where no black is allowed to succeed lest he vote Republican. Congratulations, Liberals.


3 posted on 02/01/2011 10:20:17 AM PST by pabianice
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To: ExGeeEye
Shhhhhhh


Don't wake up the libtards with facts...LOL

4 posted on 02/01/2011 10:21:51 AM PST by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: youngidiot

The beer summit Harvard professor name is Skippy Gates.


5 posted on 02/01/2011 10:33:09 AM PST by dancusa (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. W. Churchill)
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To: ExGeeEye

read later


6 posted on 02/01/2011 10:34:28 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: ExGeeEye

While the posting was true, it is not politically correct, therefor will never be allowed to be taught in schools. Much like the fact that 60-70 thousand blacks fought for the south( Southern army was integrated). Up until the Northern media and Hollywood vilified the Confederate flag ( 1950-1960’s) many Southern Blacks had confederate flags in their home. The KKK flew ONLY the U.S. flag,never the Confederate battle flag that many Southern black fought under.


7 posted on 02/01/2011 10:39:01 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: ExGeeEye

mark


8 posted on 02/01/2011 10:43:07 AM PST by ratsreek
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To: ExGeeEye
Kewl.

For Black History Month, I'll be re-reading my Thomas Sowell book collection, re-watching Alan West speeches, and Sundays will be dedicated to listening to Pastor Manning.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

9 posted on 02/01/2011 10:45:01 AM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet.)
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For BHM, I’m gonna watch “Stomp the Yard”, and that cinematic wonder, “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo.”


10 posted on 02/01/2011 10:50:56 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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A discussion of slavery in America would not be complete without covering the case of Anthony Johnson. Mr Johnson, one of the first residents of the Jamestown colony in Virginia, became the first person to have a black man declared his slave for life (prior to that, they were indentured servants, and were supposed to be freed after seven years). Johnson went to court to have his slave, John Casor, declared a slave-for-life, and won the case, this creating chattel slavery in Virginia.

What is notable about the case is that Mr Johnson himself was black, and one of the first blacks to come to Jamestown in 1619, as an indentured servant.

11 posted on 02/01/2011 10:56:41 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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Sure there are examples of slaves that were allowed an education and who earned their freedom. But I am not sure of your point.

While I think using the shortest month of the year for “Black History” month is some white guy’s idea of a bad joke, I don’t think it is reasonable to hold up a single example of anyone as a reason to perpetuate the slave class.

While there might have been 250,000 free negroes in the south before the war, there were still, by your numbers, some 3 million or so who were slaves.

Slavery was an abomination. No grey area about it. We talk about “Free Republic” and every person has the God given right to be free.

That said, I agree that generations of freed slave ancestors need to move on from the civil war and their treatment. I believe that there are a lot of white men and women who are very willing to give any other free person in this country a hand up. But that requires getting up off your ass to take the hand when it is offered to you. AND, there is a moral obligation to turn around, and help the next person in line.


12 posted on 02/01/2011 11:01:00 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: youngidiot

Louis Gates.


13 posted on 02/01/2011 11:13:37 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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"...For BHM, I’m gonna watch “Stomp the Yard”, and that cinematic wonder, “Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo.”..."

Sarcasm aside, "Breakin 2 Electric Boogaloo" was a cinematic tour de force, and was the most awesome movie of 1984, IMO.

from Wiki:

Critical reception
New York Press film critic Armond White considers it to be "superb."[4] Roger Ebert gave the film a three-star review, despite most critics rating Breakin' 2 poorly.[5]

14 posted on 02/01/2011 12:48:33 PM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree that generations of freed slave ancestors need to move on from the civil war and their treatment.

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LOL. Soon to regret this comment, but there are a handful of unreconstructed southerners on this board who would benefit from that very same advice.


15 posted on 02/01/2011 12:52:54 PM PST by dmz
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Put on the flame proof suit my friend....


16 posted on 02/01/2011 12:55:59 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Put on the flame proof suit my friend....

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Nah, they are unlikely to come here and read this thread. There is nothing to draw them, no mention of Lincoln, no mention of slavery as the cause of the war, you know, the stuff that drives them crazy.


17 posted on 02/01/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by dmz
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To: Vermont Lt
To re-order your message just a bit:

Slavery was an abomination.

Agreed.

...I don’t think it is reasonable to hold up a single example of anyone as a reason to perpetuate the slave class.

Again, agreed.

But I am not sure of your point.

Solely this: Mr. Ellison was a free Black man who himself owned 60+ Black slaves and participated actively not only in their purchase, use, and sale, but also in deliberately causing Black children to be born for the purpose of selling them. Additionally,

While there might have been 250,000 free negroes in the south before the war, there were still, by your numbers, some 3 million or so who were slaves.

Among whom Ellison was not at all unique in practicing slavery, and was indeed not the worst offender of his race.

Understand?

18 posted on 02/01/2011 2:04:29 PM PST by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.

Actually that statistic is misleading and those figures cannot be true. If one looks at the 1860 census figures for Orleans Parish, subtract the free black male and female children (on the assumption that they wouldn't be slave holders), assume that most black male adults were married to one of the black female adults, and for the 3000 black slaveholder figure to be true virtually every black family in the city owned a slave. And that 72% of all slaveholders were black, in spite of the fact that free blacks comprised less than 7% of the total population. In short, those statistics don't make any sense whatsoever.

19 posted on 02/01/2011 2:11:03 PM PST by K-Stater
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OK. I understand your point, but it is going to be lost on the majority.

I mean, there are people who view the people of history through our eyes and our values/norms.

It was “normal” for southern farmers to own slaves. It was “normal” for us to not trust the “Japs” during the forties. It was “normal” for us to just want to kill as many of them with nukes as we could.

I agree, we need to keep all of this stuff in its proper context.

Personally, I think Black history month is stupid.

When my kids were in middle school, we had a party at our house. There were probably 20 kids here. Throughout the day i asked them what MLK was famous for. A vast majority—a super majority—told me that he freed the slaves. If this is the best that they can do for BHM, they should just can it and use the month for review.


20 posted on 02/01/2011 2:15:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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