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1 posted on 02/08/2011 7:56:01 AM PST by MsLady
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Check this site out.

http://homepower.com/home/


34 posted on 02/08/2011 8:35:12 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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In your case (very little annual sunlight), I wouldn't consider solar as my primary energy source for a SHTF scenario. Perhaps wood or oil storage (depending upon availability) will meet your needs for heating, cooking and even electrical generation by using a small steam turbine or engine.

That said, a few solar panels, windmill, batteries, and inverter would provide you with enough dependable electrical power for low wattage lighting, radio, laptop, wireless Internet, small TV and etc.l

I have a 3KW solar panel grid-tie system. On a sunny day, it generates well over 15KW. Our 2,700SF deep South home is all electric and for the last two months, we've had to buy roughly 2,000 KW a month from the electric company. Last year, without the solar system, we had two buy twice that amount of power.

The system actually saves about 1/4 but has caused us to become more energy aware and that adds about another 1/4 for 1/2 cost of last year.

Without the government rebates (state 50% and fed 35%) it wouldn't have been worth it. Very glad we've had it installed though since costs of electricity have increased over 10% this year alone.

You're doing the right thing by becoming self-sufficent!

36 posted on 02/08/2011 8:36:29 AM PST by Errant
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Forget solar.
Spend your money on thick insulation, the best doors and windows you can afford and a ground source heat pump.

In your climate, I'd recommend three to four feet of blown cellulose in the ceiling at minimum.

37 posted on 02/08/2011 8:37:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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Hey great!!! For only a forty thousand dollar investment, you’ll be able to warm up a cup of tea—sometimes even twice a day!!!! PT Barnum and WC Fields had a name for people like this.


39 posted on 02/08/2011 8:38:00 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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It really depends on how much juice you need to power only what you should run, if the SHTF. One should expect to run only minimal devices, such as radio, heat, reefer (off and on), etc., to get through the outages. If your wind power generation is 25% now, that is excellent for when the SHTF. Any flowing water nearby?


40 posted on 02/08/2011 8:39:08 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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We have had solar for around 25 years and are in a similar climate. It hasn’t been much use in the winter, so we rely on our wood stove. We also have a generator that we have used to keep our well pump and refrigerator going.


43 posted on 02/08/2011 8:41:39 AM PST by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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well, if you want a 40 year payback on an item that lasts 30 years, go ahead.


48 posted on 02/08/2011 8:53:23 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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Solar Track
50 posted on 02/08/2011 8:54:02 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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I used to be in construction before I decided to go back to college and get my EE and started designing microprocessors.

Spend the $$ first on making sure your home is fully insulated in the walls, floor and ceiling. This is within the abilities of most home owners.

Get a Kill-O-Watt ($20) and find out where all the high current devices are in your house. Changing them to more energy efficient versions will help more.

Just doing this will save real $$$ while having to spend 20k for a solar array which might save you $10/month.


61 posted on 02/08/2011 9:15:48 AM PST by Zathras
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Bloom Energy
62 posted on 02/08/2011 9:21:12 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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Lousy idea where you live but if you want a lot more information go to Yahoo.com and join a blog there that will give you a ton of ideas. SIMPLYSOLAR

Your welcome


65 posted on 02/08/2011 9:34:12 AM PST by emotionalcripple
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I live in upstate NY near Ithaca, off-grid, with solar panels, a wind generator that's currently down for repairs, and a "backup" gasoline generator.

The system has a moderate battery bank (24VDC) and a 4KW Trace inverter, and whatever source is available charges the batteries.

Spring, summer, and fall, the solar panels provide enough power for my highly-efficient home. Winter... not so much. Sun is a rarity. The wind generator being down at the moment, I have to run the gasoline genny for a few hours once or twice a week to keep the batteries topped up. Usually the wind genny would suffice, since it's pretty windy up here; not steady, but enough.

What you want to do can be done -- I'm doing similar. But it is not effortless. Clearing ice and snow off the panels after a storm is a pain; keeping track of the battery state of charge is a pain.

But on the upside, no electric bill, and the capital investment in the panels, batteries, and inverter has long since amortized away. The local power company (NYSEG) can fail and I don't even know it until a friend calls to ask how I'm doing in the blackout, and I tell them I wasn't aware there was one!

69 posted on 02/08/2011 9:58:57 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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They seem to work well with small things. I have solar front gate that was to far away from my house to run electric to it. I also have some solar fans and lights in the barn. They all work well.

However, I also live in Florida.


81 posted on 02/08/2011 11:07:04 AM PST by kara37
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Great - if you’re in New Mexico or someplace else with 300+ days of sunshine per year.

The people you need to talk to are the Earthship home designers. http://earthship.com/

They specialize is building “off the grid” homes. You should have a look their site and see if they have any info on building self-sufficient homes in your environment.


99 posted on 02/08/2011 1:17:13 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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Today, my local paper here in NC ran a story about about a guy who recently installed some solar panels.

http://www.salisburypost.com/News/020811-Ken-Clifton-Solar-Power-qcd

Apparently, there is some new technology called ‘micro-inverters’ that are a cheaper way to convert DC to AC.

The guy who the article is about has a blog detailing the steps he took:

http://www.kenclifton.com/wordpress/?cat=14


103 posted on 02/08/2011 4:26:33 PM PST by lwd
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Lemme guess, you live somewhere in the Keweenaw?

Wherever you are, you might want to mimic the way the Amish generate their own electricity - generally a combination of roof mounted solar panels and one or two residential sized wind turbines, all charging one or more banks of storage batteries. They tend not to draw a lot of electricity in the house, but they have barns, milking parlors and shops with demands that are comparable to the English.

116 posted on 02/09/2011 7:53:43 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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In snow... not so much. ;(
131 posted on 02/10/2011 11:20:56 AM PST by Daffynition ( Live EACH DAY as if it were your last, but EXPECT that there still may be a tomorrow.)
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Based upon your description solar is the wrong choice for you. Also, solar is the most expensive per KWh supplied. Can you go hydro?
132 posted on 02/10/2011 11:22:57 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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