Posted on 02/13/2011 3:34:00 PM PST by NoLibZone
Orly got promoted?
Isn't there some rule about hijacking a thread?
how ever he listed himself in college it was to game the system. His MO was to game the system ever where he went.
Disrespect the Lord at you own peril, fool.
This document is interesting for several reasons.
1. If real, it is one of the few documents from Obama’s early life to have escaped the memory hole. That makes it significant in and of itself.
2. The document records the name Barry Soetoro, religion Islam, and nationality, Indonesian all from a time when no one had a reason to invent some alternate account.
3. Unfortunately for the Kenyan birth advocates, it also records his birthplace as Honolulu; again, from a time and place when recording anything except the truth was unlikely.
In my view, this document destroys the Kenya birth story, but does raise legitimate questions about what steps Obama took to regain his citizenship, when did he take those steps, and what things might he have done to take advantage of his Indonesian citizenship before it became a handicap.
I find quite plausible a scenario that Obama did not act immediately to regain his citizenship and may have taken advantage of his foreign status to avoid registering for the draft, gain admission to college as a foreign exchange student and may explain why he seems to have a social security number challenge. His strange and almost certainly illegal behavior can be explained very nicely.
Is it true? Who knows, in fact, who really knows anything about Obama’s early life and what documents remain undestroyed that could confirm it. What is interesting about this theory is that many Constitutional scholars and citizenship experts contend that if Obama has sought restoration of his citizenship upon gaining his majority, he would have been restored to its original character and might well be eligible to be President. But, he clearly did not want attention directed at his early life and had calculated that even if the courts had found him to be eligible, he could not win under such conditions.
That’s my theory, and I’m sticking to it. I make no silly claims that my theory is true and that anyone who doesn’t believe it is a troll.
Got to be over 6,114 words. This one just made it.
>Another reason why I want to see his college records. Its important to know what citizenship he claimed once he was of age.<
I want to see these records most. I bet that it says he was a foreign student to get foreign aid.
That is something he just could NEVER explain away.
MuBarack must resign.
6368 words to be exact, but who's going to be so nit picky to squabble over 254 words. :>)
Damn, I almost wore out my blackberry ball scrolling through that..
Under US law, if someone is born a citizen by virtue of the US citizenship of their parent(s), *nothing* a citizen parent can do can changes that status, for example the child will remain a citizen even if the parents renounce their own citizenship, and they cannot renounce a child’s citizenship.
So there is no need for such a child to “recover” their citizenship, as they have never lost it.
Two years ago, I had a long drunken conversation about this subject with a lawyer here in Japan that sometimes handles immigration issues. He said that there are a number of ways in which an American can lose his/her citizenship wihtout specifically renouncing it, and one of those ways is to accept and use a passport from a nation that does not recognize dual citizenship.
Since Indonesia does not, if Obama ever traveled anywhere under an Indonesian passport, he had lost his American citizenship at that point, regardless of where he was born.
Further, it was that lawyer’s opinion that even if he had regained American citizenship through the naturalization process afterwards, he would still be ineligible for the Presidency because at that point he would be a naturalized US citizen, not a natural born citizen, even if he had been born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House.
I knew it.
You are quite right about that, but if Obama had taken some positive action to confirm that new citizenship after attaining his majority, such as applying for a passport, then a taint might have fallen over his citizenship. Given State Department rulings and actions in similar cases, Obama probably had nothing to worry about. But, this was a political issue and not a legal issue, and still is in my opinion.
Anyway, who cares how long an article is? It's not like trees are being chopped down to print it.
“A man who traveled to Pakistan when it was illegal for U.S. citizens to do so. So what country’s passport did he use?”
That is complete BS.
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