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To: Mr Rogers
Mr Rogers said:

You don’t want to go there, since the people, in a national election, put in office a man they knew had a foreign born father. In that sense, the PEOPLE spoke, and you are just whining about the results.

The United States does not live via Mob Rule. Laws have been enacted to protect the Republic. Ignorance to the law, or disregard of it as a matter of convenience or "Hope and Change", does not excuse the infractions of these laws.

The United States is not a democracy either. We the People never vote a president directly into office, so your interpretation is unfounded.

The way the process works is simple. We vote for electors to represent us. Those electors vote for the President and Vice President and these candidates become elects. Different states have different quantities of electors. Therefore, our votes never have the same influence on the office of the President. Smaller states have greater voting power than those in states such as California. Regardless as to what the "PEOPLE" have spoken, we never touch a ballot that winds up in the hands of Congress. It was the electors who have SPOKEN and put the man into office.

Our system of government is via indirect weighted representation. As such, we are a Republic.

As far as "whining about the results", some members on Free Republic may be doing just that. However, many of us are gravely concerned about the Constitutionality of the current administration. If anything Obama has done a fine job of destroying his own usurping administration. His authority has been challenged, his laws reversed, and his track record is on a faster pace to the bottom than Millard Fillmore, who to this date is considered to be to the worst president this nation ever elected.
216 posted on 02/16/2011 4:14:13 PM PST by devattel
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To: devattel

In post 195 you wrote:

“Once that decision is made, We the People would then have the ability to decide for ourselves. After all, we are the ultimate arbiters. What we say goes, and there is nothing anyone can do to take this right away from us. If we say de Vattel is the correct interpretation, it is the correct interpretation.”

NOW, in 216 you write:

“The United States does not live via Mob Rule. Laws have been enacted to protect the Republic. Ignorance to the law, or disregard of it as a matter of convenience or “Hope and Change”, does not excuse the infractions of these laws.”

So - which is it? As a matter of law, I think the US Supreme Court refused to hear the case in Dec 2008 because they thought it frivolous. I wish they had instead taken it and ruled - I think they could have done the decision in about an hour.

As a matter of what the people want - Obama advertised the fact that his father was Kenyan, and that he was raised without him. The people knew, and they voted for him anyway. Why? I don’t know. I sometimes think Obama is God’s judgment on a nation that increasingly rejects Him.


217 posted on 02/16/2011 5:13:51 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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