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To: devattel

I see...so if Putin declares Sarah Palin to be a Russian citizen, she will be ineligible due to dual citizenship?

Are you suggesting another country can make a person a citizen against their will?

If China had made Ronald Reagan a citizen, would he have been ineligible for office?

I’m saying no foreign country can make a citizen of the USA a citizen of THEIR country against that person’s will. And I’m saying the UK has never issued a passport to Obama, nor does the Queen consider him a subject.


226 posted on 02/17/2011 9:25:30 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers
I’m saying no foreign country can make a citizen of the USA a citizen of THEIR country against that person’s will.

We're not talking about random declarations of citizenship. Barak Sr. was a subject of Great Britain by virtue of territorial jurisdiction and his son fell under that same LEGALLY RECOGNIZED jurisdiction. We don't know who issued Obama's passports prior to his presidential passport and on what basis of identification because it's never been publicly presented.

229 posted on 02/17/2011 10:16:12 AM PST by edge919
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To: Mr Rogers
Mr Rogers said:

I see...so if Putin declares Sarah Palin to be a Russian citizen, she will be ineligible due to dual citizenship?

Are you suggesting another country can make a person a citizen against their will?


This is a very poor analogy. Natural born citizenship is granted at birth. No, Sarah Palin would never be a Russian citizen unless Russia annexed the United States. The crisis of 1812 occurred because the United States laid sovereign claim to millions of British subjects who were willing to become U.S. citizens, not the other way around.

Second, many nations in this world give their children, i.e. those born to citizens or those born in their country, citizenship status even when they never request it. Monarchies, republics, and oligarchies are famous for this. Countries include the U.S., Kenya, Canada, Australia, and the United Kingdom. In many cases, one must take clear action to renounce their citizenship to foreign nations at adult age, something Obama has never claimed he has done with his foreign British citizenship.

No passport is needed unless travel is required. Diplomats have different requirements, many of which are waived during travel abroad.

It is clear based on your replies you are letting your personal situation with your sister's dual citizenship cloud your judgment as your statements clearly shows favoritism towards granting foreign nationals the ability to run the nation at the highest elected office.
233 posted on 02/17/2011 11:25:47 AM PST by devattel
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