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To: Munz
I read the entire transcript and what you fail to realize apparently is that the entire INTENT of the decision was to determine if a woman can vote or not.

I haven't said otherwise. I showed you specific quotes where Virginia Minor claimed a right to vote based upon being a 14th amendment citizen and the court rejected this claim. I also showed where the majority justice in a case more than 20 years later affirmed this same thing. This IS the Supreme Court's definition of natural born citizen: "all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens." Obama does not meet this definition. What part of this do you not understand?? You respond with quantity rather than quality. It just looks like you're desperately trying to deny the obvious direct quotes I provided by typing up a copious pile of cattle excrement.

228 posted on 02/17/2011 10:11:25 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

>I haven’t said otherwise. <

You most certainly did.

I said:
“The question was about women voting. It declared women citizens jsut as men based upon where they were born.”
to which you replied:
>Sorry, but this wrong. Virginia Minor sued for suffrage because she claimed she was a 14th amendment citizen. <

>”all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens.” Obama does not meet this definition. What part of this do you not understand?? <

I understand that perfectly. I stated it before. I have stated it time and time again. But the point is where you made the distinction incorrectly that Natural Born and Native Born are the same thing. They are not.
As i said the court was ambiguous on this because they were not defining Natural born. They simply stated what had been accepted.

They were deciding on a suffrage issue and how it applied to being a citizen.

>You respond with quantity rather than quality. It just looks like you’re desperately trying to deny the obvious direct quotes I provided by typing up a copious pile of cattle excrement.<’

As it looked to me when you started this. The obvious direct quotes you provided were missing the important parts where the court was stating it was not making a decision on what constitutes the varying degrees of citizenship, but rather the fact that a citizen can vote no matter of male or female.

I seriously think that you missed the point of all of this.
regardless Obama can not be a citizen because his father was Indonesian or Kenyan .. Obama himself never claimed to be a natural born citizen. He only claims to be a Native citizen.

The two are not the same.


230 posted on 02/17/2011 10:50:15 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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