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Video of Home Schooled Wrestler Forfeiting Match Against a Girl, In Iowa State Tournament
ChicoER Gate ^ | 2/17/11 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 02/17/2011 9:03:41 PM PST by Amos McCoy


When it became apparent that his opponent in the state tournament wrestling match would be a girl., e would be facing off against a girl, Joel Northrup, forfeited his match to her.  As a home-schooled sophomore with a 35-4 record, Joel is also a Christian who takes his faith seriously. So he could not in good conscience wrestle with a  girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent. If only we had more boys raised to respect the fairer sex as much as Joel has been.   His parents are homeschooling him. but he has been allowed to wrestle with the Lin-Mar of Marion Iowa.  So Cassy Herkelman of Cedar Falls was able to win her first match at the Iowa State High School Athletic Association State Wrestling Tournament at Wells Fargo Arena on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2011. 

Her opponent, Joel Northrup of Linn-Mar of Marion, declined to wrestle her.

"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, the tournament's other female entrant) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most of the high school sports in Iowa."

His coach Doug Streicher did not speak with the media after the match. The other girl, Megan, lost her match in 52 seconds to the boy she wrestled.

Video of wrestler forfeiting match against a girl.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Religion; Sports
KEYWORDS: 2keepwomendown; allahforbidsit; coed; coward; homeschooling; iowa; keepwomnintheirplace; rassling; sexism; sexist; wrestling
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Finally a young man who was raised well by his parents who is willing to show God's glory to all through his actions by not participating in something that goes against his beliefs - even when that means no state championship. And even when that means that some will twist this into a gender/sexist/leftist ideology.

There are two videos at this site. One that shows Joel forfeiting, and another where the Athletic Director does a stand up job of defending Joel's decision not to wrestle with a girl on principle.
1 posted on 02/17/2011 9:03:55 PM PST by Amos McCoy
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To: Amos McCoy

Good for him.


2 posted on 02/17/2011 9:06:36 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Amos McCoy

I am very proud of this young man. An excellent testimony.


3 posted on 02/17/2011 9:07:44 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Amos McCoy

Bravo, Joel! Bravo!


4 posted on 02/17/2011 9:08:17 PM PST by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Amos McCoy
The other girl, Megan, lost her match in 52 seconds to the boy she wrestled.

He sure took his sweet time.

5 posted on 02/17/2011 9:09:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Amos McCoy

Yeah, the girl really wants some guy she never met grabbing her down by the crotch (inner thigh) and under her boobs? The girl’s parent(s) are nuts.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 9:09:35 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Amos McCoy
I'm not sure it has much to do with faith, as opposed to old fashioned good manners, but it seems like a decision of conscience nonetheless.
7 posted on 02/17/2011 9:12:16 PM PST by americanophile ("The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon." - George Washington)
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To: Amos McCoy

Good for Joel. Jesus said His people would be “the light of the world” -— and Joel is shining his light today!


8 posted on 02/17/2011 9:12:45 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Amos McCoy

He should have made an example of her.


9 posted on 02/17/2011 9:13:19 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Clock King

I gotta agree. I’m no prude but this boy-girl wrestling? It’s just wrong. What the hell is wrong with our schools? Oh, just watched what’s happening in Madison, never mind.


10 posted on 02/17/2011 9:14:11 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: Clock King

The whole idea is silly.


11 posted on 02/17/2011 9:14:17 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Amos McCoy

I don’t get it. Was he afraid he was going to not be able to control himself? Why couldn’t he make quick work of her and demonstrate how silly it is for boys and girls to be doing this sport together?


12 posted on 02/17/2011 9:16:46 PM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: americanophile
I'm not sure it has much to do with faith, as opposed to old fashioned good manners, but it seems like a decision of conscience nonetheless.

Actually it was stated by him that it was his faith and understanding that God does not want men handling women in inappropriate ways they are not married to.

After you are married you can wrestle your wife and pin her down for the count all you want.says a man should be with a woman.
13 posted on 02/17/2011 9:17:13 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Amos McCoy

If he did wrestler her we would never had heard about his christian witness.


14 posted on 02/17/2011 9:18:44 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: krb
You are not a Christian are you?

If you are one, then you must ignore God's warning against fondling ladies you are not married to, regardless of the reason?
15 posted on 02/17/2011 9:19:29 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Amos McCoy

Hmmmm...well, I guess he’s a better man than I. Personally, this would seem an appropriate time to demonstrate that there really are some things that women just shouldn’t do.


16 posted on 02/17/2011 9:21:21 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Amos McCoy

I read what he said. Again, I’m not sure there’s anything necessarily anti-biblical about wrestling a girl in a competition, but it doesn’t seem gentlemanly.


17 posted on 02/17/2011 9:21:46 PM PST by americanophile ("The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon." - George Washington)
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To: BigCinBigD

“He should have made an example of her.”

I think, in a very real way, he did.


18 posted on 02/17/2011 9:23:59 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Amos McCoy

Cute, newbie. Are you a Muslim?

Are you saying you couldn’t control yourself from raping her long enough to make quick work of the obviously bad experiment being conducted by the school system? Are you like that Egyptian crowd?


19 posted on 02/17/2011 9:26:39 PM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Persevero
"I am very proud of this young man. An excellent testimony."

Well said. When I was that age I was doing karate and I had to do kumite with a skinny little gal on a regular basis, it was a small class. I just couldn't bring myself to punch her or kick her. I nearly pulled the top of her gi off by accident one time with an attempted hip toss and that was really embarassing, for me at least as much as her. I hated fighting her, I always got a bloody lip, the gal had 5 older brothers and was a tough one, but I just couldn't approach a match with her like it was a real fight.

I admire this young man for the courage of his convictions.

20 posted on 02/17/2011 9:29:35 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (Eat the young, 100 million guppies can't be wrong.)
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To: Amos McCoy

What a great young man. God Bless his decision to honor a young lady. She doesn’t realize it yet...but this young man just honored her position as a cherished young lady.


21 posted on 02/17/2011 9:36:23 PM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: Clock King

I agree with you - her parents need counseling


22 posted on 02/17/2011 9:39:59 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Green Bay Packers - SuperBowl 45 champs)
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To: Amos McCoy

Home schooled kids. One of the few bright spots left in American culture.

God bless this young man for being willing to stand on principle, even when it costs him something personally.

The media can go suck eggs.


23 posted on 02/17/2011 9:40:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late.)
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To: Amos McCoy

Could someone not just dislocate her should or break an arm and finally drive home the point this mixing for the sake of PC “equality” is bullsh1t?


24 posted on 02/17/2011 9:43:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Amos McCoy

I haven’t read all the ins and outs of this story, but enough to have an opinion.

I say “Hats off!!” to this young man.

A man does not manhandle a lady. And he manhandles a woman only if he is under extreme duress.

Just my take on things.


25 posted on 02/17/2011 9:46:35 PM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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To: Amos McCoy

Good for him.

Cultural Marxism denies God’s design of male and female. Marxists state there is no difference...so that is why we have women in the military and invading boy’s sports teams, although there is biological fact and reasoning that prove there is a difference. It is why Marxism is a joke—it ignores Natural Law Theory.

Marxism wants to destroy the family relationships. By putting women in combat they are destroying the “protective” role of man, because men will be trained to “kill” women or “hit” and regard them as the “same” in the fox holes. It is conditioning AGAINST the nature of man.

Marxists want to destroy the maternal connection between children and mothers. Feminism was founded by a communist Friedan. To destroy the family.

Lenin invented daycares—to create attachment and bonding disorders so children will never be able to make long and lasting attachments like in marriage. They will also be crappy mothers who will have no attachment to their offspring and not meet the demanding needs of infants creating dysfunctional, state-dependent people.

All prisoners were abused children, most had no biological father, and those that had mothers never got the attention and contact they needed to be emotionally healthy human beings.

Pathology in monkeys is caused by removing an infant from its mother. Those monkeys removed grow up to be anti-social, unable to mate and reproduce, are extremely aggressive and will kill and practice all sorts of abnormal behavior such as homosexuality.

Marxists understand psychology and they are out to destroy our country—not make it more “equitable”. Marxism takes the beauty, mystery, excitement, respect, romance, etc., out of sex and relationships. It makes us into nothing but “trousered apes and reduces sex to a vulgar, animal act.

So, this idea of no difference between a girl and boy is NONSENSE and the schools need to end the Marxist cr*p. Girls and Boys need DIFFERENT rules because they are DIFFERENT in biology. What fools are these politicians who try to REDESIGN man and woman into their own (godless) image and DENY NATURAL LAW which is the basis of our legal system.


26 posted on 02/17/2011 10:02:25 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Amos McCoy
then you must ignore God's warning against fondling ladies you are not married to,

Please, wrestling isn't fondling.

27 posted on 02/17/2011 10:11:45 PM PST by xone
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To: Amos McCoy

I’m proud of this young man!

That being said- why is a girl wrestling boys in school wrestling?


28 posted on 02/17/2011 10:13:52 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Amos McCoy

He really won and in more ways than if he did wrestle her.

Class act! Now every parent will want him to date their daughter eventually.


29 posted on 02/17/2011 10:17:22 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: xone
Please, wrestling isn't fondling.

Nope, it's groping...that makes it okay to do to a young lady. We bellow about it from the airlines, but think it's okay for teenage boys to wrestle girls. Get real.

30 posted on 02/17/2011 10:21:41 PM PST by Pure Country (“I’ve noticed that every person that is for abortion has already been born.” -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Amos McCoy
you must ignore God's warning against fondling ladies you are not married to

You never wrestled did you?

31 posted on 02/17/2011 10:25:00 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: Amos McCoy
My son wrestled a girl when he was a freshman (she was a Sr). She was actually very good, and he lost to her in an early round of a tournament. He held back, he was nervous and she was more experienced. He was also devastated.

Later in the year, he came up against her again in a dual meet, at her school. This time he pinned her fairly quickly, his award from the crowd.......... he was booed loudly and long.

32 posted on 02/17/2011 10:32:45 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Going to Charlotte for the barbecue is like going to Minneapolis for the gumbo - John Reed)
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To: Amos McCoy
I was the 152 pounder on my high school team in the mid-90s. I never was put in that situation, but I knew two guys on our team that were.

The first was our 125 lbs. guy, and he had to wrestle a girl who was pretty damn good, so good in fact that she ended up pinning him in the second round. She actually made it to our regional tournament later that year. He never lived that down, but the girl on the mat hardly looked like a girl. This one in particular was skinny but toned, wore a swimmer's cap over her hair and a really tight sports bra. He was stronger than she was, but her technique was simply better.

Another buddy of mine wrestled at 135 lbs. and was matched against a girl back when he was on JV, and I remember him saying as he walked onto the mat that "this should be interesting."

He hip tossed her really hard and pinned her in about 15 seconds. He didn't feel the least bit bad about it.

I don't have an opinion one way or the other really, but I can say that there are no gender norming procedures on the mat. If you can hold your own there, you belong there.

Anybody who says that a wrestler's technique would suffer because he'd be afraid to grab her in certain places has simply never been on the mat. It goes by so fast and it's so intense that if you're wrestling a girl and you find that she's a match for you, you better do what it takes to win or else you'll have a permanent emotional scar.

The only time I've ever been in a similar situation was when I was training BJJ a couple of years ago. Out of about 15 guys there were two girls, one of whom was a blue belt, and a pretty good one. We drilled to where everybody rotated partners every few minutes, and I rolled with this little Russian girl who actually got me in a front collar choke, which is where you use the jiu jitsu gi collar flaps to choke the neck. I started to black out a little bit so I just slammed her on the mat until she let go. It certainly wasn't polite, but she wasn't there to play tennis; she was there to learn jiu jitsu.

If this girl can compete I don't see what the problem is.

I don't know why this guy felt he had to forfeit with a state championship on the line. These aren't sexual moves, and if a girl can make it to the state championship then she worked hard to get there, and she's probably kicked the crap out of plenty of guys on her way too.

Lastly, if the kid is home schooled, then why is he wrestling on a high school team?

33 posted on 02/17/2011 10:42:43 PM PST by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: Pure Country

No, it’s not groping either.


34 posted on 02/17/2011 10:47:09 PM PST by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: GunRunner

I’ve done Judo. Being one of those aforementioned 120 pound folks, I usually got matched up to spar with some of the ladies in the class.

Sparring is one thing, but a match? They have girls and guys split out in Judo for a reason. Sparring is all about training and control.


35 posted on 02/17/2011 10:51:51 PM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: GunRunner

I have a real problem understanding why a girl would want to wrestle...or for that matter parents who would allow their daughter to do so.

My son wrestled so I do have some understanding of the sport and disagree that this contact made is not grouping or foundling or whatever word you want to call it. It IS a “contact” sport....where hands reach to all places for the holds. Why would a parent even think of putting their daughter in that type of contact sport!


36 posted on 02/17/2011 10:59:26 PM PST by caww
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To: BenKenobi
I'm not a judo expert, but I took a couple of judo classes as electives at our BJJ school. All we did were throws, and I don't think judo involves striking.

Strikes are a different story, in that you're looking for a knockout or technical. I wouldn't engage in a match with a female if striking was involved, and strikes and grappling are two wholly different things in my book. Punching a girl in the face isn't the same as going for a submission, a pin, or trying to score points.

37 posted on 02/17/2011 11:03:25 PM PST by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: Amos McCoy
So he could not in good conscience wrestle with a girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent.

It's even more unnatural for boys to grapple with other boys.

It's Greek -- nasty history of that stuff.

38 posted on 02/17/2011 11:10:31 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: caww
I don't know why a girl would want wrestle either, but if she can get on the mat and beat guys, then I don't see the rationale for telling her she can't.

If a man and a woman grappling with each other to score points in a match has some sort of sexual connection, then one could make the argument that two men grappling with each other is somehow 'gay' (which my non-wrestling friends would occasionally raz me about).

This isn't a 'contact' sport in the same way football or boxing is.

The risk of injury due to the strength difference in men and women is much lower.

39 posted on 02/17/2011 11:14:46 PM PST by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: GunRunner

No, it doesn’t. It’s strictly grappling. Grab the neck of the GI, leg sweeps, etc. There’s a fair bit of groundwork, but most folks try to go for chokeholds rather than pins.

I’m a fan of that GI pinch. It’s useful for small folks against big folks.


40 posted on 02/17/2011 11:30:23 PM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Amos McCoy

A good young man.


41 posted on 02/17/2011 11:31:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Michael.SF.
Later in the year, he came up against her again in a dual meet, at her school. This time he pinned her fairly quickly, his award from the crowd.......... he was booed loudly and long.

So the male either declines the match, endures a humiliating loss, or is booed for being a brutal abuser of women if he wins.

Why on earth would a male want to participate in a sport that would force him to choose between those alternatives?

42 posted on 02/17/2011 11:35:19 PM PST by TChad
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To: Amos McCoy

Like I said on another thread, at just a little younger age I broke a kids arm wrestling at a similar weight. The boy looks pretty buff, I was too. Sad to force a kid to make this decision.

And maybe this girl can handle it, what about the next one?


43 posted on 02/17/2011 11:47:20 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Amos McCoy

Amen! What kind of parent allows his daughter to wrestle boys!


44 posted on 02/18/2011 12:59:05 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: GunRunner

Men and women are different and should be treated differently.


45 posted on 02/18/2011 1:02:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: krb

I agree.


46 posted on 02/18/2011 1:42:40 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Amos McCoy
absolutely a honorable thing to do....

my congratulations to him and his family for raising such a young man....

how can a teenage boy wrestle with a teenage girl?...what are these parents thinking....

the girl seemed pretty sheepish but I don't know what she nor her father expected...

boys can not have babies...there's lots of things boys can't do and shouldn't do.

...girls must realize that they can protest and demand a lot of "rights" but "rights" don't give you moral permission....

.there's a greater law...a law of common sense...

47 posted on 02/18/2011 1:50:50 AM PST by cherry
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To: GunRunner
Lastly, if the kid is home schooled, then why is he wrestling on a high school team?

In mnay states, parents of home-schooled kids have fought successfully for the right of their kids to participate in high school athletics. They's re still paying taxes aren't they? And this is one area of home-schooling where they can't compete with old -fashioned schools.

48 posted on 02/18/2011 1:53:32 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
" Could someone not just dislocate her should or break an arm and finally drive home the point this mixing for the sake of PC “equality” is bullsh1t?"

what passes for manhood......*sigh*....you're pathetic...

now this young man....he is a MAN....more man than a lot of grown men....

49 posted on 02/18/2011 1:55:29 AM PST by cherry
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To: Amos McCoy

You WON the match, Joel!


50 posted on 02/18/2011 2:38:54 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful.)
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