[fr_freak]

My sons are all in their mid to late twenties and it astounds me how they let their girlfriends run their lives or are cut off.

I tell them all the time to grow a set and be a man

They are your sons. Why didn't you raise them to be men? Did you let our current trash communist/feminist pop culture raise them, so that they got brainwashed into believing they were subordinate to women? Are you saying that all of your sons resisted your every firm effort to instill manliness in them, or were you the one that failed?

[LuvFreeRepublic]

subordinate to women

Real men know that women are neither subordinate nor superior to men. They are one half of the whole.

[Popman]

Hope you got that saddled pulled real tight so you don't fall off your high horse

Of course I raised my sons to be men doesn't mean that have not learned a few lessons the hard way

The oldest is married now to a fine women and have a great marriage with two children tool him about 5 years to figure dad was right

The second has sworn off women after being burned one too many times

The third is a hopeless case

The fourth has seen his brothers BS they have to put up with and will drop a girl after the first date when she starts the manipulations

I for one am glad your offspring are perfect makes life so easy I am jealous of you / s

[Persevero]

My total guess is that Popman (don’t know him) has less sympathy for his sons’ wives or girlfriends because he is not in love with them.

I have seen fathers-in-law take a very dim view of their daughters-in-law. In my opinion they are often too hard. They are not charmed or impressed by her youth or her beauty, and will ascribe mistakes, idiosyncracies and occasional excesses to great evil mastermind plots. It is not always so.

The girl is young, the son is young, they will both take advantage of each other to some extent without being insatiably evil. If the son is happy and not being robbed blind, let him enjoy his wife and don’t be suspicious of every thing she does. She’ll be raising your grandchildren. Be nice.