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Some in GOP grow tired of right wing
Politico ^ | 3/16/11 4:33 AM EDT | MARIN COGAN & JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 03/17/2011 3:55:44 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi

Some veteran Republican House members are pushing back against conservative deficit hawks who are pushing for endlessly deep spending cuts, saying the right wing of the party is creating unnecessary divisions for the GOP majority.

While the 54 Republicans who voted against the most recent stopgap spending bill didn’t derail the legislation, some GOP lawmakers are becoming increasingly wary of a faction that rejects substantial spending cuts because they want deeper ones or the inclusion of divisive social policy riders.

Many of the critics are close to Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who struggles more each day to keep his majority unified as a three-month spending showdown threatens to spill into April. The House passed $6 billion of spending cuts Tuesday, to bring the total cut to $10 billion.

“Yep, it is surprising,” Idaho Rep. Mike Simpson said of the difficulty convincing hard-liners that the leadership is cutting large amounts of spending.

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“I think it’s usually wiser to vote with the Republican leader than with Nancy Pelosi if you’re a Republican,” Cole told POLITICO. “I think politically that’s a harder vote to explain at home than voting with John Boehner. I don’t see anything to be gained that way.”

“At the end of the day, politics is a team sport,” Cole said. “The only two things you can do as a member of the House on your own is hire and fire your staff and cast one vote. If you really want to get something done, you have to be part of a team that can muster 218 and work with the Senate and the president. That’s just the way the founders set up the system. ... And that’s going to make it difficult for you to always get what you want.”

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Yeah, I think most of us know that the GOP doesn't represent conservatives. The GOP represents the GOP.

The point I wanted to make though was that the statement, "If you really want to get something done, you have to be part of a team that can muster 218 and work with the Senate and the president. That’s just the way the founders set up the system." is completely incorrect. In fact, it could not be more incorrect.

Our founders set up a government where if there wasn't general agreement on an idea, it would not become law. In other words, if the House, Senate OR the President is against the EPA, there would be no EPA. Not half an EPA but no EPA.

All these votes are FOR MORE spending. They are not votes for cuts. The founder's baseline was that the government would do nothing unless everyone agreed.

1 posted on 03/17/2011 3:55:47 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Attn: GOP

you think you’re tired now???

You’re going to be exhausted after a TEA PARTY PRIMARY!!!


2 posted on 03/17/2011 3:57:08 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (To anger a Christian, Lie to them. To anger a muslim, tell them the TRUTH!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Some in the grassroots are getting fed up with the RINOesque GOP. We WILL purge you (Rinos), btw: Why are there never any articles: “Some in the DNC tire of the leftwing-marxists”?


3 posted on 03/17/2011 3:57:48 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
veteran Republican House members are pushing back against conservative deficit hawks who are pushing for endlessly deep spending cuts

What I've said about Republicans all along. They're only marginally better than democrats.

4 posted on 03/17/2011 4:01:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
To use the team sport analogy mentioned in the article, when you're 20 points down and the starters are dribbling the ball off their foot and throwing the ball out of bounds, you bench the starters and insert new players. Then the news guys can play the team sport.

Time for the full-court press.

5 posted on 03/17/2011 4:02:05 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Right wing grows tired of GOP.


6 posted on 03/17/2011 4:05:21 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
If you really want to get something done, you have to be part of a team that can muster 218 and work with the Senate and the president. That’s just the way the founders set up the system. ... And that’s going to make it difficult for you to always get what you want.”

That is true.

But it is also true that unless you express your opinion forcefully and demonstrate your willingness to vote against the leadership when they violate your strongly held principles you will be considered a safe vote and your opinions will be ignored.

7 posted on 03/17/2011 4:05:46 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

They have the rest of their lives to get over it.


8 posted on 03/17/2011 4:07:19 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

“Yeah, I think most of us know that the GOP doesn’t represent conservatives. “

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Likewise, most of us know that Politico is liberal, and routinely posts stuff like this in a futile attempt to set the narrative.

Ignore them. And then - reduce spending MORE.


9 posted on 03/17/2011 4:10:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Oh yeah. This wasn't written by a bunch of left-wing ideologues! First 2 things I saw were hit-pieces by Scarborough and Kinsley. Leftwingnuts all.

“Yep, it is surprising,” Idaho Rep. Mike Simpson said of the difficulty convincing hard-liners that the leadership is cutting large amounts of spending.

On a day that was had a deficit of $72 billion having a cut of $6 billion is a joke. And I'm sure that 6 billion was spread out over some years so it's really next to nothing, and it'll be spent in other places anyways.

Why should we believe that anything is ACTUALLY being cut???

10 posted on 03/17/2011 4:10:22 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: Pontiac

Sick of these Rinos. They are totally useless. Whatever happened to the GOP of Teddy Roosevelt that fought for people instead of big business, Wall Street & corporate America? The GOP’s nose is so far up their posterior end that it is poking outta their stomach! Give me the Tea Party any day! They are the ONLY people w/ half a brain at all in politics. What does the GOP NOT understand about our nation being bankrupt? Hello, Boehner? Anyone there??? This business as usual is killing the GOP & IF they don’t listen to the Tea Party & other conservatives, they better get used to being a permanent minority of blue blooded, bouncing to & from Wall Street & big business butt kisser old farts! I’m done w/ the GOP. They are worthless. Only the Tea Party gives me a ray of hope.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 4:11:48 AM PDT by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
“At the end of the day, politics is a team sport,” Cole said.

And who's team is Cole on? Apparently, not the American team. He sounds like a special interest. And if the establishment Republicans are wary and tired, they can retire from public office, go back to their home districts, and try opening a business. Then they can see what their team has done to America.

12 posted on 03/17/2011 4:12:18 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

If not for the right wingers, they’d still be sitting in the corner under Nancy Pelosi’s rule.


13 posted on 03/17/2011 4:12:26 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

An implicit admission that the GOP is left-wing.


14 posted on 03/17/2011 4:14:06 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: JSDude1

Home run question of the day! Couldn’t agree more.


15 posted on 03/17/2011 4:23:08 AM PDT by marygam ((Obama is not a messiah, wake up folks!))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“endlessly deep spending cuts”

What a set up. Is the Politico arguing that conservatives are for zero government? Or that you can potentially “overcut”?

Don’t raise the debt ceiling and see what happens...nothing. Life will go on and America will thrive. The only negative effect will be that politicians cannot spend more.


16 posted on 03/17/2011 4:31:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Time for the Conservatives to push out the GOP!


17 posted on 03/17/2011 4:32:53 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Pontiac

Not it’s not true. Our government was not set up to “get things done”. It was set up to prevent the national government from getting things done. When something doesn’t “get done”, our founders smile.


18 posted on 03/17/2011 4:33:29 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Boehner is about as useful as tits on a suitcase.


19 posted on 03/17/2011 4:34:50 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’d read what I want, thank you very much. It’s a Free Republic.

Do you think the quotes were made up?


20 posted on 03/17/2011 4:35:05 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

“At the end of the day, politics is a team sport,” Cole said.

Then get with the team. Your coach is calling for a new game plan. I guess some of these players need to be traded to the Democrat team.


21 posted on 03/17/2011 4:35:16 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: b4its2late
Time for the Conservatives to push out the GOP!

Maybe we should treat them like the muslims would: convert to conservatism, pay tribute in the form of votes, or be vanquished to a third party!

22 posted on 03/17/2011 4:35:16 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

I’ll read....


23 posted on 03/17/2011 4:35:36 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Some in GOP grow tired of right wing having to pretend they are conservative or actually standing up for anything.
24 posted on 03/17/2011 4:36:21 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Sick of these rinos.


25 posted on 03/17/2011 4:39:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

RINOs out!


26 posted on 03/17/2011 4:41:27 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Bulgaricus1
Whatever happened to the GOP of Teddy Roosevelt that fought for people instead of big business

And just WHERE do you think the RINOs came from? Hmmmmmmmm? Roosevelt was a PROGRESSIVE pubbie...IE: RINO....one of the FIRST ones as a matter of fact.

27 posted on 03/17/2011 4:45:41 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Hear,hear!


28 posted on 03/17/2011 4:55:13 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

63 billion out of a 3,600 billion dollar budget, of which 1,600 billion is borrowed money.

Great O’l Pathetic party.


29 posted on 03/17/2011 5:01:41 AM PDT by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Well you bastards will be TIRED OF BEING UNEMPLOYED IN 2013! FU liberal republican evildoers! Your asses are gone come November 2012. WE HAVE HAD IT WITH EVERY LAST TRAITOROUS ONE OF YOU _________!

LLS


30 posted on 03/17/2011 5:03:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
"...a faction that rejects substantial spending cuts because they want deeper ones..."

Substantial cuts would be removing 50% or more of the deficit. The cuts these RINOs are proposing aren't even a drop in the bucket. The government is broke.

31 posted on 03/17/2011 5:07:31 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: jersey117

“If not for the right wingers, they’d still be sitting in the corner under Nancy Pelosi’s rule.”

This is something John Boehner and company have already forgotten! I never had much faith in Boehner! I hope the people in his district remember this in 2012!


32 posted on 03/17/2011 5:13:14 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

SUBSTANTIAL SPENDING CUTS!?! The day they approved $6 billion in cuts the deficit GREW by $72 billion!!!!

What a flipping joke!!!!!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 03/17/2011 5:26:08 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry ("I've got tiger blood and Adonis DNA!")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Great post and commentary.


34 posted on 03/17/2011 5:29:54 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Would love to meet this “ Some” fellow, because he sure does seem to get a lot of press time.


35 posted on 03/17/2011 5:30:51 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: All; MontaniSemperLiberi
Republican House members are pushing back against conservative deficit hawks who are pushing for endlessly deep spending cuts

Endlessly? Really?

Within the last two weeks the GAO reported $100 billion in duplicative spending could be eliminated from the budget.

This piece says we're supposed to be pleased with a pitiful $10 billion in cuts when faced with a $1,600 billion deficient?

Even the $100 billion cuts "promised" in the Nov 2010 election cycle is only 6.25% of Obama's tsunami of red ink for 2011 alone.

That's nothing and yet these co-creators of the problem are more afraid of the lies the Democrat minority will spread against them than they are of bankrupting the nation.

36 posted on 03/17/2011 5:33:08 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama, recreating-in-chief until Fri, Jan. 20, 2017.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
“The only two things you can do as a member of the House on your own is hire and fire your staff and cast one vote.

You dumb-assed congress critters are our staff, and we can hire and fire you if you don't listen to us.

We hired you to get rid of obamacare and cut spending... do it.

37 posted on 03/17/2011 5:53:43 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, in honor of Standing Wolf.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Time to create the “Red Dog Republicans”.


38 posted on 03/17/2011 6:03:39 AM PDT by Tuxedo (Up against the wall)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Taking anything from the Politico seriously indicates a lack of reality.

Politico, like the rest of the MSM, is the Propaganda Arm of the DNC!

39 posted on 03/17/2011 6:38:17 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Redleg Duke

Do you think the quotes are inaccurate? Are they things that all conservatives should generally know?


40 posted on 03/17/2011 9:01:07 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: jersey117

You know, they never asked to be given power back. I don’t think they really want it. I think they like having a good gig taking up space in DC and don’t like the intrusion of actually having to think ahead.

I think they want to opine and just opine. I don’t think there is a doer among the GOP leadership.


41 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:49 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
I do not trust the Main/Lame Stream Media. They are nothing but the propaganda arm of the DNC.

They specialize in context, as in taking out of.

42 posted on 03/17/2011 9:10:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Some of us conservatives are tired of the GOP

and I left.

I vote libertarian/conservative now.

Freedom is my guiding principle.


43 posted on 03/17/2011 9:22:15 AM PDT by Chickensoup (“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” Orwell)
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To: Tuxedo

Past time.

LLS


44 posted on 03/17/2011 10:42:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: paulycy

Yep.


45 posted on 03/18/2011 12:47:23 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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