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Forcible citizen disarmament by fiat: When separation of powers gets in the way
St Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 March, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 03/17/2011 4:18:43 PM PDT by marktwain

It's good to be king, particularly if you are a president who wants to impose more infringements on that which shall not be infringed, and Congress is disinclined to play along. As President of the United States, that would be (or should be) a problem, because the separation of powers built into the structure of our government splits power among the three branches of government (and no--not Sen. Schumer's "three branches of government"), but for a king who rules by decree, it's as easy as, "Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool."

According to the Huffington Post's Sam Stein, that's what King Barack the First . . .er, President Obama is looking at now:

Faced with a Congress hostile to even slight restrictions of Second Amendment rights, the Obama administration is exploring potential changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive action, administration officials say.

This will doubtless greatly please New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whose Mayors Against Illegal Guns group suggested just such a course of action well over a year ago. Salon magazine also likes the idea, as discussed here back in January:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; democrats; donttreadonme; executive; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunregistration; liberalfascism; molonlabe; obama; obamatruthfile; progressives; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny
Perhaps this administration is bent on defeat and disgrace. Perhaps it is as ignorant and incompetent as it seems. Obama has no real connection to most of America. He has been insulated from most of America for his entire life.
1 posted on 03/17/2011 4:18:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Foruneately, Executive Orders are also the easiest damage to undo.


2 posted on 03/17/2011 4:22:08 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: ez
As long as you have a rifle, you still have a vote.
3 posted on 03/17/2011 4:24:10 PM PDT by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Noumenon

Ooo-rah.


4 posted on 03/17/2011 4:24:59 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: marktwain

FUBO!


5 posted on 03/17/2011 4:26:39 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: marktwain

Don’t miss watching this VIDEO where Glenn Beck shows Obama in his own words ON VIDEO about how he intends to disarm America INCLUDING not even allowing hunting.

VIDEO: (Notice the word “GUNS” on his blackboard behind him) http://www.watchglennbeck.com/

“Why should I or the NRA go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States?” LaPierre rhetorically asked during an interview with the Times Monday. “It shouldn’t be a dialogue about guns; it really should be a dialogue about dangerous people.”

Bottom line:
But gun control legislation may be the least of the NRA’s concerns. According to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.

NRA Refuses to Meet With Obama on Gun Control
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nra-refuses-to-meet-with-obama-on-gun-control/
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:24pm

On Tuesday, officials at the Justice Department met with gun control advocates, answering President Obama’s call to put aside “stale political debates” to begin “a new discussion” on ways to better enforce and strengthen America’s existing laws in the wake of the Jan. 8 shooting in Tucson. Missing from the dialogue, however, was the National Rifle Association (NRA) who pointedly responded to the president’s invitation: thanks, but no thanks.

“Every single day, America is robbed of more futures. It has awful consequences for our society. And as a society, we have a responsibility to do everything we can to put a stop to it,” Obama wrote in an op-ed published Sunday in the Arizona Daily Star. “Now, like the majority of Americans, I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. And the courts have settled that as the law of the land. … However, I believe that if common sense prevails, we can get beyond wedge issues and stale political debates to find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place.”

In an open letter (pdf) delivered to the White House Monday, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox, Executive Director of the NRA‘s Institute for Legislative Action criticized Obama’s call for a renewed dialogue on gun control and encouraged him instead to crack down on crime, not gun rights.

“[T]o focus a national dialogue on guns ­ and not criminals or mental health issues ­ misses the point entirely,” LaPierre and Cox wrote. “If you do in fact believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right, we suggest you demonstrate that in your policies and those of your Administration, which you have not done to tdate. Simply saying that you support the right to keep and bear arms is mere lip service if not put into action.”

“The government owes its citizens its most vigorous efforts to enforce penalties against those who violate our existing laws,” they continued. “The NRA has members proudly serving in law enforcement agencies at every level. Rank and file law enforcement wan to arrest bad people ­ not harass law-abiding gun owners and retailers.”

(Video: NRA News)

As the gun control debate fires up, the New York Times noted Monday how Obama‘s gun control message attempts to borrow from the NRA’s own rhetoric:

For example, a White House adviser on Monday said Mr. Obama wanted to redefine the gun debate to “focus on the people, not the guns.” The president, in his column, cited the same policy areas Mr. LaPierre mentioned as fertile ground for consensus. And Mr. Obama emphasized, “First, we should begin by enforcing laws that are already on the books” ­ a line long used by the gun lobby.

Mr. Obama’s column in The Arizona Daily Star reflected his continued political caution toward an issue that for decades has polarized the country. In past weeks, aides had suggested he might give a public address expanding on his views about gun safety ­ an option that has now been put aside.

Mr. Obama spoke at a memorial service in Tucson four days after a gunman on Jan. 8 killed six people and wounded 13, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords. But gun safety advocates, including a group of mayors headed by Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, called on Mr. Obama to do more, including endorsing legislation to ban high-capacity magazines like those used in the Arizona attack.

“Why should I or the NRA go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States?” LaPierre rhetorically asked during an interview with the Times Monday. “It shouldn’t be a dialogue about guns; it really should be a dialogue about dangerous people.”

Visiting Capitol Hill on Tuesday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg joined congressional Democrats in announcing legislation to expand the nation’s gun background check system.

But gun control legislation may be the least of the NRA’s concerns. According to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.

The Department of Justice held the first in what is expected to be a series of meetings on Tuesday afternoon with a group of stakeholders in the ongoing gun-policy debates. Before the meeting, officials said part of the discussion was expected to center around the White House’s options for shaping policy on its own or through its adjoining agencies and departments ­ on issues ranging from beefing up background checks to encouraging better data-sharing.

Administration officials said talk of executive orders or agency action are among a host of options that President Barack Obama and his advisers are considering. “The purpose of these discussions is to be a productive exchange of good ideas from folks across the spectrum,” one official said. “We think that’s a good place to start.”


6 posted on 03/17/2011 4:29:10 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI

“America is robbed of more futures?” That doesn’t even make sense!


7 posted on 03/17/2011 4:30:37 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: marktwain
Let that scrawny girly-man SOB try it! He's asking for either a civil war or a military coup d'etat.


8 posted on 03/17/2011 4:50:57 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: GatorGirl

He’s talking about all his future lil’ Obama voters gunning each other down in the inner cities.


9 posted on 03/17/2011 4:52:03 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: marktwain
Molōn labe!
10 posted on 03/17/2011 5:10:53 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: marktwain

Now the ‘run’ on ammo and guns around election time doesn’t seem so illogical, does it?


11 posted on 03/17/2011 5:24:27 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: marktwain

This won’t end until there is universal recognition of American exceptional-ism, and the source of that exceptional-ism, the Constitution of the United States of America, and that portion that clearly states our liberties, The Bill of Rights.

Sadly, it is more likely the Visigoths are at the gate and surrender is imminent.


12 posted on 03/17/2011 5:43:17 PM PDT by petro45acp (Hey Doc! Don't tell me how to live my life. CURE what ails me so I can live how I choose.)
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To: marktwain

The only gun decree that he can make via executive order is disarming the FBI, DEA, BATF, etc.


13 posted on 03/17/2011 8:49:26 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: Noumenon
Indeed! And everyone who owns a rifle should strive to become a Rifleman
14 posted on 03/18/2011 11:37:10 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Matchett-PI

Bump & bookmark


15 posted on 03/18/2011 11:38:08 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: marktwain

See how long it stands.


16 posted on 03/18/2011 11:47:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marktwain

did we get a dictator??


17 posted on 03/18/2011 11:59:08 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Let me be the first to offer Tom there an upgrade...He’s going to need a lot more firepower...


18 posted on 03/18/2011 12:55:08 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: EdReform

Indeed. Appleseed’s a must for all patriots. Still manage to shoot the AQT in the mid 240s with my trusty SA58 FAL. On a good day.


19 posted on 03/18/2011 12:55:24 PM PDT by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: GeronL
"did we get a dictator??"



You could say that, I suppose........
20 posted on 03/18/2011 1:00:19 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: GeronL
"did we get a dictator??"



You could say that, I suppose........
21 posted on 03/18/2011 1:00:24 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Thank Your, Emperor, Sire.


22 posted on 03/18/2011 1:06:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Noumenon
“As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.”

Exactly, That will be the line drawn in the sand. Unlike Boehner, We The People know when to pick our battles, and we have the fire in the belly, the courage (courage being fear that has said its prayers) and love of the Constitution, freedom and liberty to go forth.

23 posted on 03/18/2011 1:16:10 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme
Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

“As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.” Exactly, That will be the line drawn in the sand. Unlike Boehner, We The People know when to pick our battles, and we have the fire in the belly, the courage (courage being fear that has said its prayers) and love of the Constitution, freedom and liberty to go forth.

And may God have mercy on our souls.

24 posted on 03/18/2011 6:17:20 PM PDT by BallandPowder
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