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Free Trade, Made in America, I need a [ZOT!] VANITY
4-5-2011 | John

Posted on 04/05/2011 11:11:22 AM PDT by jrm5447

When you talk about Unions, Big labor, they are called Commies, Demos etc. But regardless of what the union leader affiliates themselves with, we are talking about American's! People live here, grow here, and thrive here. And if it is a union that Keeps American Labor moving then so be it! I read something,that the poor business owners cannot stay competitive."What"! They moved out because they wanted to widen there pockets and not pay good American what they are worth.I see the argument about the people that unions back politically but look what happens when you vote for the others it is total change of America!


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: america; labor; people; troll; unions; victorkilo; zot; zuluoscartango
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41 posted on 04/05/2011 11:36:11 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: jrm5447

You should’ve put this in breaking news, in ALL CAPS!


42 posted on 04/05/2011 11:36:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: jrm5447

George Meany made it clear that there was a conflict of interest if taxpaying union members in the private sector have to pay for the benefits of tax-receiving union members in the public sector.

The union folks decided to cast their lot with Bill Clinton, and rolled over and panted on cue, as he got NAFTA passed. They were AWOL when Clinton granted the Red Chinese MFN status. These same palookas go to the wall when conservatives make necessary adjustments to GOVERNMENT employee rules that benefit the private union members. The unions picked their side. This is not the George Meany AFL-CIO. Government employees now control more than half of the union membership, and government is the only growth portion, as it is a harder host to kill. The unions made a premeditated decision to cast their lot with the government unions and the democrats. In 1992, they threw out the anti-commie provisions. The union leadership does the bidding of Hary Reid and Nancy Pelosi as they formally promote a social left agenda on feminism etc. that is opposed to the values most blue collar union members hold. The big union leadership no longer stands for the interests of the American working man, which is why so many WANT to work in non-union plants in the south.


43 posted on 04/05/2011 11:38:46 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: scott0347; jrm5447; Sacajaweau

44 posted on 04/05/2011 11:39:06 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: jrm5447

“They moved out because they wanted to widen there pockets and not pay good American what they are worth.”

That’s a bunch of crap.

Most merit shops I know, pay WAY ABOVE union scale. The fact is, that companies left because of overburdensome BS and red tape from the local governments, usually forced onto them by the unions.

Further, people don’t mind paying for quality, and that is how unions killed themselves. They degenerate quality to the point of making something so bad, that no one wants it anymore.

Folks will shell out big money for import cars because of quality. They vote with their wallet. No one wants a clunker GM. Remember, don’t buy an American car made on a Monday, Wednesday or Friday.... because the union slobs are too lazy and make a crap product.

I’m in the trades, and the same can be said. Here in Illinois, we are run by unions, every trade. We are regularly sub’d out by union shops to work on boilers or electrical systems, because the gub’min union guys can’t do it.

I have had A card IBEW electricians stand over my shoulder on a job and ask me how to read a particular schematic. I kid you not. I have had union plumbers not know how to replace a king valve properly on a high pressure boiler, but they had to be there, because they were union, and to replace one requires a union to sign off on the change out for city work.

I used to be a printer, many moons ago, and we printed victoria secret catalog and Sears. The pressroom guys made a decent living, but everytime the Christmas season would come along, and those catelogs had to go out, they would walk off the job for a few hours, and demand more crap.

Guess what? The company didn’t want to move, they HAD to, because their clients had deadlines and Victorias Secret and Sears didn’t care to hear about a strike, they just said “go non union or we are finding another vendor”.

I know explaining this to you will do no good, because you are trolling.

My non-union employees make more, work more, and are way more productive than any union screw I know in Cook County, Chicago, and probably the whole state of Illinois. They are better educated (which we willingly pay for) and know that they are part of our extended family, they are not the enemy. If they were union guys, we would have an us vs. them attitude, and I’m not going to even bother with something like that anymore. Been there, done that. If forced to go union, and I may be at some point, I will just close up and retire, then there will be another batch of guys sitting around the union hall waiting for the buzzer to ring so they can work for 8 hours that day...


45 posted on 04/05/2011 11:40:03 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: workerbee

Do you have any idea what this troll is trying to say? I do wish they were more articulate.


46 posted on 04/05/2011 11:40:55 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: jrm5447

¿Que?


47 posted on 04/05/2011 11:41:55 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: jrm5447

“...and not pay good American what they are worth.” Therein lies the rub, a job will never pay what “you” are worth, it will only pay what the job pays.


48 posted on 04/05/2011 11:43:44 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: jrm5447

Based on his spelling, punctuation, and prose, the OP is obviously on his Mom’s computer.


49 posted on 04/05/2011 11:46:20 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: workerbee

No proofreading will correct no basic knowledge of grammar.


50 posted on 04/05/2011 11:53:07 AM PDT by AnyStreetFL (www.AnyStreet.org - Conservative Community Organizing, ACORN without the evil)
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To: jrm5447

51 posted on 04/05/2011 11:57:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Solution to Libya's problem: They want a new Muslim leader, I say, give them ours...2 problm solved!)
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To: jrm5447

I am a mean capitalist industrialist.

At night I go into my basement and kill puppies and kittens.

I laugh at riots and tsunamis.

This is because after working hard all my life, and being responsible for thousands of people, I’ve decided I hate America.

I love giving jobs to Indonesians and Chinese rather than Americans for no other reason than I need a 40 bedroom mansion rather than a 30 bedroom one.(sorry Al Gore).

It’s the money, not the control. If I wanted to control people, I’d work in the government.

/sarc off.

And these people think they are rational. The sad thing is, these people control the media and educational system.


52 posted on 04/05/2011 12:03:22 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: jrm5447

Been to Detroit lately?


53 posted on 04/05/2011 12:03:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: jrm5447
Arriveaderchi

Ciao

Hasta la Vista

So Long

Sayonara

And....Aloha means GOODBYE!

54 posted on 04/05/2011 12:03:45 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: snowrip

“Based on his spelling, punctuation, and prose, the OP is obviously on his Mom’s computer.”

Well, maybe there’s hope. He does sound sort of juvenile.

Maybe when he’s twenty he’ll start to get some brains.


55 posted on 04/05/2011 12:05:37 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: jrm5447

Damn! missed it by 40 minutes!

IATZ.......


56 posted on 04/05/2011 12:07:38 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: jrm5447

57 posted on 04/05/2011 12:07:45 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If your story is true, you should get it to Rush, Beck, etc.


58 posted on 04/05/2011 12:22:11 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Or as Archie Bunker used to refer to it...The UFO-CIA


59 posted on 04/05/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

60 posted on 04/05/2011 12:31:51 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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