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To: discostu
As long as Rush is out there complaints that the media is all left and people to the right are marginalized are silly. Rush is at the top of the revenue heap, clearly the right can hold its own. Of course even if it was true putting the media under government control isn’t the right answer. Remember the quote from George Washington: “Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. Government is force; like fire it is a dangerous servant — and a fearful master.” A fearful master that is force simply should not be in charge of a nation’s mass communication medium.

There are a few conservatives out there fighting the good fight, and certainly the advent of the internet has helped considerably (these boards being a prime example). However, the traditional media is unquestionably dominated by the left. I don't believe that is some vast plot to undermine capitalism, apple pie and the American dream - I think you have to be a special kind of paranoid to believe that - but what I do think is true is that all these journos and talking heads all come from much the same background, all went to the same liberal Universities and did the same courses in Journalism and Media studies. They all have much the same kind of ideas, intermingle socially, are often married into each other's families - it's a cosy little club, and it doesn't welcome outside opinions. When I say marginilised I mean that conservative-orientatated presenters and journalists are regularly blackballed, passed over for promotion, and generally excluded. And its nothing you can prove, but for sure it goes on.

I don't believe and I have argued that the BBC is not under the government's control. Certainly no more than the "independent" TV organisations operating in the UK. Your argument seems to be it gets money from the government, therefore it must be under its thumb. On the same level you could argue the US army is a major threat to your liberty. The fact that it isn't is due to various constitutional safeguards, and in the same way, the BBC has its charter.

I’d rather the government have to take the extra step of taking control of the media than it already be gifted to the government. That buys us at least a couple of hours anyway.

Bound to make all the difference.

There is no dictionary definition of “government” that restricts it to one administration. Most of the people in decision making positions in the government are there through multiple administrations. The FCC still has many employees that were hired during the Clinton administration, there’s a reason things tend to change so little from one administration to the next.

It may also be due to the fact that administrations come and go, but America's situation and stategic objectives remain much the same.

Things aren’t nearly as derivative as folks like to think. Especially once you get into the deep cable networks. The broadcast networks tend to be copycats because failed experiments cost them a lot of money. Cable networks have lower overhead, pay everybody less, and experiments are easier to green light. There’s a big difference in the risk a company that NEEDS shows to have 10 million viewers and a network that’s HAPPY with 2 million viewers is willing to take. Name me 4 other shows like Spartacus, you can’t. BSG, the same. Walking Dead, forget about it.

Cable is better for sure, but come on. BSG is itself a sequel, and the original was a Star Wars rip off.

OK now you’re just not making sense, if having a minority audience isn’t supporting a minority interest then nothing is and your whole phrase is meaningless. They might be supporting the minority interest YOU want them to, but they ARE supporting a minority interest and are NOT pulling for a mass audience. This is proven in their own numbers. SyFy is a channel that has no dreams or intention of ever gunning for American Idol numbers, they are not a channel for the masses, they are a channel for a minority, that IS supporting a minority interest.

Nonsense! "Having a minority audience isn’t supporting a minority interest"? What kind of talk is that? Just because not many people watch does not neccesarily mean it is aupporting a minority! That might just means it isn't very popular. By that argument a main channel series that only attracted half-a-million viewers would be "supporting a minority interest". Supporting minority interests is about showing specialist programs, surely. And ScyFy certainly isnt doing that. Its supposed to be a sci-fi channel and it doesnt show any sci-fi.

80 posted on 05/03/2011 4:29:56 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Media is dominated by the left for the same reason the arts have always been dominated by the left. Leftist politics are the politics of feelings, and artists are people ruled by feelings. Conservatives by and large aren’t drawn to acting and writing and painting as careers, subsequently we’ll never be the majority voice in TV, movies, performing arts or visual arts. As for journalists, remember most journalists are failed authors who found out they couldn’t come up with plot or characters, so they resorted to writing about the real world where plot and characters are provided for free. So of course they’re libs, and bitter ones at that because they failed at what they wanted. Presenters are largely failed actors, so again of course they’re libs. As for the “blackballed” conservatives, they’re the odd men out, they don’t fit in, don’t go to the same social events, don’t always get along with their co-workers. And, of course, putting the government in charge won’t fix that.

The BBC gets its funding from the government. If your government isn’t exercising control over it it’s just out of luck. Money from the government ALWAYS comes with strings, and those strings will be pulled, the only question is when not if. Deny it if you chose but you’re ignoring thousands of years of recorded human history to do so.

Hey it’s 2 hours longer to see it coming than you’ve got. Might not be enough time, but it’s time.

No it’s because government employees tend to be idealists and lifers. Most government jobs you make less money than you would doing the same thing in the private sector, there’s a certain kind of person willing to make that sacrifice, and those people stay until retirement time usually straight out of college. So 40 to 45 years of “service” is not uncommon, so we’ve got people working in the government that got there during the Carter administration, doing their job with whatever ideals got them there in the first place, prioritizing their work according to those ideals, regardless of how those ideals match the current administration’s goals. Corporals run the army, secretaries run the office, guess who really decides what America’s priorities are.

BSG was a remake, but it was dramatically different than anything else on TV at the time, and still now. Much thicker character and plot development, a story largely lacking in good guys because all the characters had realistic flaws.

SyFy channels shows lots of sci-fi. BSG, Eureka, Warehouse 13, Sanctuary, Stargate. That’s all SF, and original programming SF. Then there’s all the reruns. 3 hours a week of wrestling helps them pay the bills (it is the most popular stuff on there) but it doesn’t mean they aren’t showing SF. They ARE serving a minority audience, maybe not in a way the minority audience is willing to acknowledge, but nerds are notoriously bitchy.


81 posted on 05/03/2011 8:50:35 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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