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Where is the seal? (vanity)

Posted on 04/27/2011 8:15:38 AM PDT by Former Fetus

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To: Tatze
What was released yesterday was a copy of that document.

Possibly. But ask yourself if it were that easy, why was it not done before?

It was an odd looking document that was first floated. On security paper (printed at 100 dpi), but with the curved left margin as if it came from a bound volume. The version given to the press, on white background looked much more normal and that copy was in a higher resolution format. That version was obviously scanned by the press to give an electronic version. Resolution was higher and it was an RDF type .pdf doc. I looked at it carefully.

At this point I think it is a waste of time to continue questioning the BC, but I am also not totally convinced it is not still a forgery.

This is the first time that Obozo's administration has actually produced a birth document himself. It was previously done by a surrogate friend. That gave him some denyability. Now he is on record that this is the "true BC". The real truth of the matter will not come out of the HI Health Dept. It is more complicated than it appears now.

My opinion of Obozo has not changed, he is an enormous FRAUD. His life story is a total lie.

61 posted on 04/28/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
No matter what else is wrong with it, a digital image is no substitute for a hard copy with embossed seal.

You couldn't get a passport with the digital image.

No one would submit a digital copy for a passport. I received my passport by submitting my short form BC, the equivalent of the COLB released 2 years ago. A long form is not required.

He received a hard copy, with raised seal. In order to release it to the masses it was scanned and released. Or are you saying he should have ordered a couple hundred million copies to be mailed to every household to prove it??

You will never hold in your hands the hard copy with raised seal. Several people in news organizations have, and have photographed or scanned the hard copy, before the WH added their green hash. If a neutral third party document expert could be agreed upon to verify the document, I'd be all in favor of it. I and would fully expect that it would be deemed official. I suspect you still would not accept the results of that.

But have we learned anything new from this document? Other than the doctor's and registrar's name, no, not really. We already knew his father was not a citizen, which is really the crux of the NBC argument. Now, go get a court to rule that both parents must be citizens in order to be NBC, and we've won. You can show me all the rulings from the 19th century supposedly issuing this exact ruling, but they don't apparently mean much, because they did not stop him from taking office.

The BC is a dead issue. The COLB from 2 years ago was a valid abstract of the original, printed from the digitized records in a database. The COLB from yesterday is a true copy of the original that is bound in a book in the records office. Thats why the Okuda stamp says "true copy or abstract", so it can cover both types of COLB's.

62 posted on 04/28/2011 7:59:50 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Former Fetus

At $4 for each additional copy why the hell did he not get 50 or more copies so that everyone could handle an original copy? He paid thousands to jet a private attorney to Hawaii but could not spend $200 for more copies? It probably cost taxpayers this much for him to have staff scan and print out copies. And now if 2 or more states pass laws requiring documented proof he is going to send his attorney back to Hawaii for more copies? How very green of him.

Something really stinks about this narrative.


63 posted on 04/28/2011 9:55:52 AM PDT by PwrPencil
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64 posted on 04/28/2011 10:49:10 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Tatze
The embossed seal is difficult to see, but I can see the circular pattern in the lower left of the certificate

If you say so! I think I'm going to have my eyes checked, I don't see it.

65 posted on 04/28/2011 5:11:12 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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