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To: GunRunner

The issue before the court in Wong Kim Ark was simply whether or not Mr. Wong was a citizen, not whether he was a natural born citizen. Court rulings only set precedent on matters officially presented to the court by the litigants. Since the definition of “natural born citizen” was not one of the issues in the case, the ruling set no precedent in that regard. FULL STOP.

Your mere assertion that I’m wrong proves nothing. You cannot prove I’m wrong by anything in any Supreme Court decision, because everything on the topic of the meaning of “natural born citizen” if every SCOTUS decision is merely dicta, and sets no precedents.

In the absents of past precedents, the SCOTUS will look first to the text of the Constitution, and then to other on-point historical evidence and documents. The reasoning in my first post essentially decides the matter based solely on the text of teh Constitution itself, and does so irrefutably.

You are the one who is wrong, and laughably so.


52 posted on 04/28/2011 12:09:49 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: sourcery
No. The court found that there's no Constitutional differentiator between birthright citizenship and natural born citizen.

Therefore, since Wong Kim Ark was a citizen at birth, he was a natural born citizen. This is the way it was done in English common law, and there was no change mentioned in the Constitution.

55 posted on 04/28/2011 12:20:08 AM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of Freeping...)
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To: sourcery

The court was quite clear in the Kim Wong case that he had ALL the same rights as any other citizen. Both this case and the Arthur precedent are totally against you.


75 posted on 04/28/2011 4:23:42 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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