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To: antiRepublicrat

-————The point here is that they want to, and their attempts to do so must be stopped.——————

And you see marxism as the solution?

-——————I still think that if those on the right had embraced the net neutrality issue uncorrupted in the beginning-—————

You can’t point to such a beginning.

Do you really thing that Wu wasn’t always a marxist? That he came to be a big government ‘let’s nationalize their code’ guy later on?

And there really is an argument to make that net neutrality went just before Wu, that it came from free press themselves.

FP created the idea, Wu created the catch phraze. The media did it’s diffusion tactics, to make it seem as if there really was a golden encrusted net neutrality that could be trusted. But there never was.

-————and few people actually looking out for net neutrality anymore.——————

All evidence points to this never being the case. It was always a farce. The media made it look good for a time, which is the only “era of purity” that could at best/realistically be pointed to.


15 posted on 05/03/2011 9:00:23 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of unneutral things.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
BTW, about your title, 53 sounds bad. How about some context? There are at least 800 footnotes in that document. As a major player in the issue, at least according to you, they got less than 7% of the references. I noticed Google was in about 70 footnotes.

And you see marxism as the solution?

No, I see market pressure as the best solution. Absent that succeeding, the least possible regulation is the solution.

And there really is an argument to make that net neutrality went just before Wu, that it came from free press themselves.

The concept began in the 1800s with telegraphs, they were required to not discriminate in sending traffic. Later the concept was in the phone system, which was required to not discriminate between lawful traffic. Then the Internet was invented (remember, by government contract), and it operated and flourished by the same concept.

You want to make this us vs. the Marxists. In reality the primary competition is everyone vs. the telcos. These Marxists are a separate issue, feel free to pursue them. When they try to silence our voices on the Internet, actually doing it with no tin foil required, then I'll be there with you. The telcos are probably loving that the Marxists took up this banner. Now with everybody screaming against the Marxists they can do whatever they want. They automatically have the support of the "corporations good, government bad" idiots on the right.

And now back to reality, let's check out the actual rules made by the FCC:

Transparency. A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service shall publicly disclose accurate information regarding the network management practices, performance, and commercial terms of its broadband Internet access services sufficient for consumers to make informed choices regarding use of such services and for content, application, service, and device providers to develop, market, and maintain Internet offerings.
This isn't actually net neutrality, however it is a basic consumer protection rule that promotes net neutrality. It promotes competition by making ISPs actually tell customers what they're paying for (what a concept).
No blocking. A person engaged in the provision of fixed broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not block lawful content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices, subject to reasonable network management. A person engaged in the provision of mobile broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not block consumers from accessing lawful websites, subject to reasonable network management; nor shall such person block applications that compete with the provider’s voice or video telephony services, subject to reasonable network management.
They don't get to block what I do on the network access I paid for. Is that Marxist?
No unreasonable discrimination. A person engaged in the provision of fixed broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not unreasonably discriminate in transmitting lawful network traffic over a consumer’s broadband Internet access service. Reasonable network management shall not constitute unreasonable discrimination.
Same as above, but more about interfering with what I do with my paid Internet access.

This is what you're against, protecting consumers from the telcos abusing their position as the gatekeepers to the Internet.

16 posted on 05/03/2011 10:39:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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