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Dallas cops keep $2,000 found by honest teen
khou.com ^ | May 11, 2011 | Craig Civale

Posted on 05/11/2011 12:49:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

DALLAS — Dallas will keep $2,000 found by a teenager in a parking lot last February.

The money will go into the city's general fund — not back to Plano high school student Ashley Donaldson, who found the cash in an envelope at the Pavillion Shopping Center in North Dallas.

"I don't regret making the decision I did," she said. "I feel proud of myself for giving the money back. It's one of the biggest decisions of my life."

The 15-year-old Shepton High School student spotted the money on the ground and took it to a nearby Chase Bank.

Over the last three months, the bank and Dallas police have tried to find the owner, but have had no luck.

On Tuesday, police said under a new city policy, the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' general fund — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

"We appreciate your honesty," said Dallas police spokesman Senior Cpl. Kevin Janse. "We're going to put the money to good use. It's not going to be wasted, but put to good use for the City of Dallas."

That's not the answer Ashley Donaldson had been hoping for. "I was thinking about a car," she confessed.

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1 posted on 05/11/2011 12:49:35 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Uh, no.


2 posted on 05/11/2011 12:51:32 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“No good deed goes unpunished”


3 posted on 05/11/2011 12:52:15 PM PDT by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am not suprised. A friend of mine found a large diamond ring in the Atlanta Airport and turned it over to the cops. THey said to contact them after a certain amount of time passed if the owner didn’t claim it. She had paperwork, etc. She ran ads and everything. When she started contacting the police dept. to get the ring, they avoided her and would not return her calls. They finally said “We don’t have it. It was auctioned off along with other lost and found or confiscated items.” Period.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 12:53:35 PM PDT by a real Sheila (SEAL TEAM 6 and the CIA "Gotter DONE!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Who the hell does Senior Cpl. Kevin Janse think he is.

It's not his or the City of Dallas money!

5 posted on 05/11/2011 12:54:16 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What right do the cops have to it?

(Note to self...give found money to charity before greedy government union stooges confiscate it.)


6 posted on 05/11/2011 12:54:53 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
On Tuesday, police said under a new city policy, the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' general fund — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

Its not stealing finders property if the cops do it. Its... its... a new policy. Yeah, that's it - just claim that policy trumps property rights, and trust that the amount is too small to be sued over by a naive teenager.

So all it takes to rip off an honest kid is several hundred plice with guns, backed up by lawyers and a city council. Way to go, Dallas!

Welcome to the real world, kid - remember what they did to you, and how they justified it, and it will enable you to protect your money in the future.

7 posted on 05/11/2011 12:55:34 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The government in it’s many forms and agencies is not your friend. They are not among us to protect us, protect our assets, or our rights. With minor exception, their constant presence is to collect from our public treasury each week, and to lobby for the continuation of such.


8 posted on 05/11/2011 12:55:34 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It's not going to be wasted...

If it is going to be put in to the 'General Fund' of the City then I can assure you it WILL be wasted.

9 posted on 05/11/2011 12:56:45 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' general fund — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

Donut fund, most likely. The money should last about one shift.

10 posted on 05/11/2011 12:58:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: WayneS

“Hey kid, you owe us $3,000”.


11 posted on 05/11/2011 12:58:49 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BS... it should be finders keepers if no one claims it.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 12:59:22 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It was in an envwlope? Cops probably thought it was just another payoff.
13 posted on 05/11/2011 1:01:09 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: TexasCajun
Who the hell does Senior Cpl. Kevin Janse think he is.

Cpl Kevin Janse isn't a policy maker. He's just the spokesman for DPD. He's told what to say whether he agrees with it or not.

14 posted on 05/11/2011 1:01:34 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Now Miss Ashley, imagine! In a few years, it will be money you’ve worked hard for that they will take!


15 posted on 05/11/2011 1:02:44 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was probably drug money. If I found a wallet with ID and cash inside I would contact the owner. If I find cash in a brown paper bag I will look around and if nobody is looking....yipee!


16 posted on 05/11/2011 1:04:41 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
One of the reasons this type of honesty is common in Japan is that the finder gets to claim the money if it is unclaimed after one year.

Even if the loser turns up to claim the money, they are expected to reward the finder for about 10% of the sum involved.

I dropped a fanny pack once when riding a bike. I called my wife to check the route and the nearest police box where it had, indeed, been turned in. They wouldn't let her claim it because there was about $40 in cash inside. They did give me the phone number for the finder and I called to thank her. She wasn't interested in the traditional $4 reward, but the police still insisted I had to go to the big police station (which involved taking time off work) to pick up the claim. They actually had a detailed check list of everything in the fanny pack which I had to verify before taking it back.

This was so the cops couldn't be accused of skimming. Some months later, I found a wallet. I did the guy a favor by NOT turning it in. I contacted him and arranged for him to call me when he came to the local Dai-Ei where I handed it over.

17 posted on 05/11/2011 1:04:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The old policy encouraged honesty. If the true owner showed up, he got the lost item back. If not, then the finder got a reward for being honest.

Well, well all know that politicians don’t give a damn about honesty these days.

You might say that they never did. Machine politics has been around for a long time. But even the Mafia was more honest and morally responsible then the corrupt leftists in charge these days.

All they have to say is “It’s social justice, or it will be well spent,” and they can be just as corrupt as they please.


18 posted on 05/11/2011 1:06:32 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Ancient Drive
BS... it should be finders keepers if no one claims it.

No, it's finder's keepers and everyone now is going to keep whatever property they find, instead of going through the effort to 'do the right thing'.

If she simply kept the money; she would be $2,000 richer. By being honest; she was essentially robbed of $2,000.

I submit that the idiots at the Dallas Police Dept, will have cost the citizens of Dallas far more harm than whatever possible good they could have gotten from that money. They have undermined the trust and goodwill a law-abiding citizen should feel about the police department. I submit that $200 Million in goodwill will not repair the damage these idiots have done over $2,000.

19 posted on 05/11/2011 1:06:36 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Give the girl the money. She deserves it.

No way the city of Dallas deserves it.
There is stupidity in Texas just like other states.

Even in San Francisco they would probably give the money
back. Actually I take that back they would probably give it
to the criminal illigal alien defense fund. :-)


20 posted on 05/11/2011 1:13:36 PM PDT by skyman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Somebody had to contribute to the donut fund and they found a volunteer! Just think of how many boxes of donuts 2 Gs are going to buy.

I’ll take a jelly donut if he doesn’t mind! LOL!


21 posted on 05/11/2011 1:14:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A local Walmart store had a similar policy. When my son found a wallet containing $40, Walmart returned only the unclaimed wallet to the boy saying that the money must have been donated to “The Children’s Miracle Network.” yeah, right


22 posted on 05/11/2011 1:23:54 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Talisker

And Ashley, if you or your parents ever get a phone call asking for a contribution for the Policeman’s Benevolent Fund, tell them you’ve already been benevolent enough.


23 posted on 05/11/2011 1:25:25 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Burma Shave! (- sorry you missed the first six taglines--))
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To: massgopguy

Since the $2000 is going to city taxes/funding, he should deduct it from his federal taxes


24 posted on 05/11/2011 1:28:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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To: a real Sheila
"THey said to contact them after a certain amount of time passed if the owner didn’t claim it. "

I guess from now on everyone should contact the police and give a description of what they have found. If they find the owner, then the police are welcome to contact you when the true owner is identified and you will turn it over to the correct owner.

Unfriggen believable! I am one that would turn the item over, but now I am going to have second thoughts on this one......
25 posted on 05/11/2011 1:32:31 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: a fool in paradise

Nah, the city will probably notify the IRS and send her a 1099-MISC at the end of the year so Uncle Barack can get some taxes on that $2000 she didn’t get to keep. After all, it was briefly in her possession, so it must be taxable income!

}:-)4


26 posted on 05/11/2011 1:38:39 PM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Thievery in Dallas.....



These guys would make ol' J.R. Ewing proud
27 posted on 05/11/2011 1:39:06 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sure they will find some form of TAX the child has to pay during this money transfer.


28 posted on 05/11/2011 1:40:16 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: Americanexpat

AS it turned out, it WAS another payoff.
Curious that NO ONE claimed it-—if it was legitimately lost, couldn’t someone put together enough proof with corroborating evidence to be able to claim it?
Leads me to believe it was part of a drug deal.
Of course Old Man Potter could’ve lost it after he stole it from Thomas Mitchell in It’s a Wonderful Life.


29 posted on 05/11/2011 1:40:37 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Burma Shave! (- sorry you missed the first six taglines--))
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To: Moose4

I had considered that possibility before posting!


30 posted on 05/11/2011 1:41:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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To: jcsjcm

The problem that can arise in a situation like this if that money is being tracked, you might be caught spending tainted (or even forged) money.


31 posted on 05/11/2011 1:43:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("If Eric Holder had his way, O-B-L would still be alive today." Thank you President Bush for Gitmo.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good grief. How utterly offensive. It should have gone back to the teen. This is gross. I hope people protest this crap.


32 posted on 05/11/2011 1:53:09 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: supremedoctrine

What a great memory you have, to remember Thomas Mitchell as the actor playing the doofus uncle of George Bailey. That Potter proved himself to be utterly wicked by keeping the money. Would it not have been a crime for him to do so?


33 posted on 05/11/2011 1:55:33 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"We're going to put the money to good use. It's not going to be wasted, but put to good use for the City of Dallas."


34 posted on 05/11/2011 2:08:45 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: a real Sheila
They finally said “We don’t have it. It was auctioned off along with other lost and found or confiscated items.” Period.

She should have retained a lawyer. The person who bought it at auction, if the story about its disposition is even true, is in possession of stolen goods. Anyone in the chain of custody through the auctioneer should be indicted.

ML/NJ

35 posted on 05/11/2011 2:10:42 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: forgotten man

I live out in the country and have heard there are drug dealers out here. Local inmates work on the garbage trucks and clean-up right-of-ways around here. One day they were working cleaning the right-of-ways and one inmate found a package in the road ditch in front of my house, it was $30,000. He could gotten away with keeping it except him and another inmate got into an arguement about it(greed). Man I wish it had been grass cutting day and I had found it.


36 posted on 05/11/2011 2:10:42 PM PDT by Hotmetal (Live your life to the fullest with no regrets.)
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To: jcsjcm
I guess from now on everyone should contact the police and give a description of what they have found. If they find the owner, then the police are welcome to contact you when the true owner is identified and you will turn it over to the correct owner.

Yea, that's the way to do it. There's absolutely no reason to give custody to the police.
37 posted on 05/11/2011 2:17:41 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Kudos to the Teen for doing the right thing.

Burn in Hell to the city’s rulers who have decided that everything belong to the city, and they’re going to put that money to “good use,” as the government knows far better how to properly spend money than some stupid subject who’ll probably put some into savings for his (hopefully stellar) future and inject some REAL stimulus for the economy.

Remember, the government knows how to spend your money better than you do.

Mark


38 posted on 05/11/2011 2:38:02 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Reading some other stories on this, and it’s pretty clear they’re in damage control mode now. The story is going viral and the mayor’s office is distancing themselves. There are also reports that some good samaritans are donating money to an account set up by Chase for the girl.


39 posted on 05/11/2011 2:41:16 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
On Tuesday, police said under a new city policy, the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' general fund — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

Another example of the grasping bastards of government. No doubt they were thinking of the possibility of someone finding a suitcase of drug money and feeling greedy about it.
40 posted on 05/11/2011 2:44:12 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Svartalfiar
Yea, that's the way to do it. There's absolutely no reason to give custody to the police.

And it's amazing how greedy the state and police can be. It would be hilarious if it didn't make me so angry. The state of Missouri actually wound up suing the Kansas City Police Department for misappropriation of funds. You see, if a PD in MO confiscates property in the investigation of a crime, there's a state law that that property belongs to the state, and it goes into the "general fund." On the other hand, if a local PD works in cooperation with federal agencies, the feds will share the booty directly with the PD. So what Kansas City's PD started doing was doing the investigations, but before busting the bad guys, they'd call in the feds and allow them to bust the bad guys! That way, the KCPD got to keep some of the booty!

The state wound up suing the PD. I don't remember who won.

Mark

41 posted on 05/11/2011 2:48:53 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Hodar
Here's the contact information for the mayor's office.

http://www.ci.dallas.tx.us/forms/mcc/mayor_mail_contactus.htm

Here's the note I sent His Honor:

Ashley Donaldson, and the whole country, learned something useful. The Dallas Police Department apparently does not consist of honorable peace officers in business to serve and protect, but of mercenary thugs.

OK -- a kid does the right thing. The cops get $2,000 to toss into their doughnut fund. And the city gets a black eye in front of the whole nation.

The decision to punish, rather than to reward, Ashley's honesty, makes Dallas an uglier place to live. You get what you reward, you suppress what you punish. Someone decided that a less honest, a less honorable, Dallas was a desirable thing.

Kindly find out who that someone was, fire his ass, and make things right. The ball in in your court.


42 posted on 05/11/2011 2:56:58 PM PDT by it_rr (kervan yürür)
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To: WashingtonSource

Well, Potter was nothing if not an extreme stereotype of the evil bastard manipulator, a lot like George Soros of today, but on a local level. And of course it was a crime since he KNEW it was left there accidentally by Mitchell and once he seized the 8K it provided exactly the leverage he needed to throw the Bailey S&L into insolvency.


43 posted on 05/11/2011 4:19:55 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Burma Shave! (- sorry you missed the first six taglines--))
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To: supremedoctrine

This cop isn’t worthy to stay in TX. They should fire him and send him a ticket to California.


44 posted on 05/11/2011 5:47:10 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"We appreciate your honesty," said Dallas police spokesman Senior Cpl. Kevin Janse. "We're going to put the money to good use for the city government of Dallas."

Damn...You know these people in city governments are near broke...Everyone outside government is now a target for money and revenue.

45 posted on 05/11/2011 5:53:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenKenobi
This cop isn’t worthy to stay in TX. They should fire him and send him a ticket to California.

It's your entire city government there in Texas that made the decision, not your just one Texas cop.

Don't push off your greedy Texas government employees on us...We have enough.

police said under a new city policy, the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' government — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

And no, we don't want the entire city of Dallas...Keep it.

46 posted on 05/11/2011 6:05:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

We don’t want ‘em. :)

You can keep ‘em. I’m sure they’ll feel right at home in CA.

Glad to see the lady has an acct set up with Chase. I suspect she’s right that she’ll get more out of making the right decision than she would had she just kept the money. TX is just awesome like that.


47 posted on 05/11/2011 6:08:18 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi
police said under a new city policy, the unclaimed money will go into Dallas' government — not back to the person who found it, as in years past.

You're a little slow?

Once again, this is the policy for the entire city of Dallas, not one cop.

And no, you can keep it.

48 posted on 05/11/2011 6:18:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Why do you think I’m trying to send them to California? :)


49 posted on 05/11/2011 6:28:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I confiscated the orange construction cones that fell off the local Time Warner cable truck....”F” them


50 posted on 05/11/2011 6:30:19 PM PDT by shadowcat
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