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That Bogus Birth Certificate
World Net Daily ^ | May 12th, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/12/2011 4:02:21 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid

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To: databoss

are you calling grandma sarah and numerous kenyan officials, liars?


21 posted on 05/12/2011 5:14:19 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: jersey117

soon we will be able to call anyone against herman cain, racist.


22 posted on 05/12/2011 5:16:00 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: palmer
palmer ... if I could identify reality ....

Maybe YOU don't see it, but I think I do see bizarro world.

zero laughs at us with a "release" of a "birth cirtificate", the invented OBL assasination (What? We can assasinate a terrorist but can't say our usurper might be assasinated ??), his never ending golf game/date with the linebacker/campaign mode ..

I don't mean to be offensive, but I see a different reality than you.

If you mobilized a couple of million voters, do you REALLY believe you can take the nation back ... peacefully?

zero and his embeds would just shrug and say, "Oh well .. we tried but they won"

????

23 posted on 05/12/2011 5:23:26 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Bigh4u2

Can anyone show where it has ever been reported that she visited Kenya? 18 makes it even more unlikely, it appears she turned 18 in November 1960 right around the time she got pregnant. Sorry I just don’t see a pregnant 18 year old college student from Hawaii boarding a plane for Kenya in 1961! Call me skeptical!


24 posted on 05/12/2011 5:27:46 AM PDT by databoss
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To: golux
Maybe Americans are just too tired to care about their Constitution,

Maybe, we just have too few real Americans left.

Yes, we have a population of over 300 million but only a comparative handful are Americans (patriots) in the truest sense.

An American who is anti-American is not an American!!!

25 posted on 05/12/2011 5:32:20 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: knarf
It's true he is laughing at you, but not for the reasons you think. He is laughing because he tasked some junior staffer to mess around with the scan of his B.C. that he had requested from Hawaii. He won the election thanks in part to a bunch of dead-ender marginalized birthers and their phony non-issue distracting from the campaign in 2008.

Now it is also true that the Dem party infiltrated primaries to get McCain elected, and that the media annointed him many years before that (the "Maverick") and then the media tore him down while he dithered. They will try that same trick this time, nothing to do with this thread or the birther issue.

The reality is now that the nation has been partly taken back through the campaigning and contributions (like mine) to successful republicans. That will continue and you are welcome to join. Or you can just sit around and pretend that Obama is not a citizen and waste your own and other people's time.

26 posted on 05/12/2011 5:32:57 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: liberalh8ter
but I have zero faith anyone with the power t do something will do it.

In the end, it is just easier for them to abdicate their duties and responsibilities and just go along. That attitude is why this Country is in grave danger.

27 posted on 05/12/2011 5:35:52 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: knarf

I pray you are wrong.


28 posted on 05/12/2011 5:36:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: databoss
Not sure I subscribe to the Kenyan birth theory either

But if there was nothing to hide, makes you wonder why Dunham’s passport records were stolen (err, “destroyed”) by John Brennan's cleaner thugs when they raided State Dept in 2008

Rahm Emmanuel's strange private little “family safari” to Kenya in Dec 2008, just after the election, also makes me go hmmmm. After all he is such a gentle unassuming ethical man.

29 posted on 05/12/2011 5:36:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: palmer
The scanned the paper doc mailed to them from Hawaii and then messed around a bit before turning it into the WH PDF.

Whatever the propriety of opening a pdf with Photoshop, the image on the White House website is NOT a simple color scan of a paper document. You are right that they did mess around with it in some way - I think with that green background.
Video

Cordially,

30 posted on 05/12/2011 5:53:18 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: knarf

...”Oh well .. we tried but they won”

They won’t go down in civilized fashion. They’re more likely to bomb and strafe the union breakers...ah... Republic breakers to save “their” Country. You think term limits will mean anything to this bunch?? I don’t nor will anyone including SCOTUS stand in their way. We’re doomed as MSM and others helped implement their playbook.


32 posted on 05/12/2011 6:06:51 AM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: databoss
Wiki: "On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II"

New York Times:


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/magazine/mag-24Obama-t.html?_r=1


"Ann Dunham, who jettisoned the name Stanley upon emerging from childhood, was just 17 years old in the fall of 1960 when she became pregnant with the child of a charismatic Kenyan named Barack Hussein Obama, a fellow student at the University of Hawaii who was more than six years her senior. She dropped out of school, married him and gave birth shortly before their union ended. "

Based on information from 'Dreams From My Father'.

Where was she when she dropped out of school?

Her biography is littered with contradictions about her whereabouts at that time.

Once source said she was in Seattle and another in Hawaii when she gave birth. But none say where she was shortly after marrying Obama SR.

Be as skeptical as you like. Because there is a lot to be skeptical about.


33 posted on 05/12/2011 6:44:23 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: palmer
It's not hard at all to figure out that it is pointless to forge a document with wierd layers (e.g. part of a signature in one layer and part in another), but you can easily create the layers from a clean scan with some partial OCR processing.

Since it's so easy, maybe you could give us a demo of your "partial OCR processing." I'd especially like to see how this "partial OCR processing" renders signatures in different resolutions. Sort of like this:

Note: this is an unretouched image. You can duplicate this simply on your own machine by going to http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf. Once the document opens in your browser, specify that you want to view the document at 1000% (10x) magnification in the little dialog box in the toolbar above the document. Then scroll down about 60% and right about 60% to to get to where you can view the Dunham and Sinclair signatures at the same time.
The different size pixels that make up the two different signatures could not occur in a single scan of an original document. This is prima facie evidence of fraud.
ML/NJ
34 posted on 05/12/2011 6:51:57 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Bigh4u2

Realistically could she get to Kenya?


35 posted on 05/12/2011 7:04:37 AM PDT by databoss
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To: databoss

“Realistically could she get to Kenya?”

According to one of the articles, she was estranged from her parents because of the interracial marriage.

Obama SR may have taken her to Kenya to meet his parents during the early months of union.

Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Don’t know.


36 posted on 05/12/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: databoss

I meant ‘of their union (marriage)’.


37 posted on 05/12/2011 7:07:49 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: ml/nj

Post processing fraud. The pixel sizes were changed by different black/white thresholds in different layers. There are quite a few tools that do this with many processing options for things like thresholding. Fraud is fraud, but we need to be clear on what type of fraud we are talking about.


38 posted on 05/12/2011 7:08:38 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
It's true he is laughing at you, but not for the reasons you think. He is laughing because he tasked some junior staffer to mess around with the scan of his B.C. that he had requested from Hawaii. He won the election thanks in part to a bunch of dead-ender marginalized birthers and their phony non-issue distracting from the campaign in 2008.

Your theory is nice, but no one in Obama's position would ever make a fraudulent copy of a genuine document because he would then be at the mercy of several MSM outlets with the ability to publicize that the released document was fraudulent. In order to stem the tide of criticism, the WH would then be forced to say, "Oh, we were just playing a political trick on our enemies. Here's the real thing." I don't think it would fly. And besides, they're not that smart. This is a game they would have had to think of even before the election. And it's not just the birth certificate that has been hidden. The only undisputed piece of paper from Obama's pre-Chicago past is a registration record from an Indonesian elementary school; and it doesn't even have his name on it.

Also, Obama won the 2008 election because McCaine is a schmuck, or worse. Obama's origins were not an issue at all, unfortunately.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 05/12/2011 7:14:35 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: nikos1121

///But the big question is why? Why would they release something that is so obviously forged? Arrogance, ignorance? Did the guy who put the bc together do this to out Obama and to undermine him?////

Why did the President of the United States, with untold resources, years to prepare, and legions of well connected supporters, not to mention a material interest in keeping the Birther issue alive, release a document with minor but obvious file layering issues? The kind of flaws that experts would ignore but obsessed Internet fanatics would devour like catnip?

You don’t have to be Admiral Akbar to figure this one out, but I’ll say it anyway.

“IT’S A TRAP!”


40 posted on 05/12/2011 7:17:04 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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