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That Bogus Birth Certificate
World Net Daily ^ | May 12th, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/12/2011 4:02:21 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid

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To: palmer
The pixel sizes were changed by different black/white thresholds in different layers. There are quite a few tools that do this with many processing options for things like thresholding.

You are blowing smoke.

I don't know why, but you are blowing smoke. You previously challenged me with an AP image where these signatures were rendered with identical sized pixels. I said that this could easily be done and I presented an image where I demonstrated this.

You continue to suggest with different words this time ("many processing options" and "thresholding") that it is easy to produce an image of the sort the WH produced that is not a composite. I say: Deliver or Disappear from these threads.

ML/NJ

41 posted on 05/12/2011 7:26:06 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: nikos1121
It’s all over the net about the bc. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge about photoshop can see what they did. It’s a simple layered forgery. They could have flattened the work, and perhaps not made it so obvious, I don’t know...

It's a scan. But at this point, the layer forgery meme appears unstoppable.

42 posted on 05/12/2011 8:20:30 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: databoss
Your post #5.

...I find it HIGHLY unlikely that a pregnant 19 year old white girl FLEW to Kenya in 1961 to have a baby... I may be wrong but it just seems improbable...

I had accessed a very left wing blog which traced the possible routes if Stanley Ann had flown to Kenya. Five stage journey and by road to Mombassa from Nairobi. They did raise the question of the air fares for her and presumably her putative husband. Of course they were not going to give the "birthers" much slack. What gives rise to my doubts about such a trip, and Stanley Ann would have been 18 years, 19 years in the December of 1961, is the money factor.

Not trying to be a plant here, but I could certainly see the 119 miles from Seattle to Vancouver, Canada, as a place for Stanley Ann to go to. What I do sincerely believe is that a vault copy originating at the HDOH, for the now President Obama, never did exist.

The reluctance of a respected figure such as Dr Onaka PhD, to even confirm he rubber stamped the copy of both the 2007 copy and just recently the "long form" is very disturbing indeed.

43 posted on 05/12/2011 10:14:23 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: noinfringers2

Kenyan law does not allow bigamy. Bigamy is a criminal offence in Kenya and has been since 1902. Kenyan law allows tribal marriage (polygamy), moslem marriage (polygamy), and statutory marriage (monogamy) but it doesn’t allow a mixture of any of the three.

Obama, Sr’s, marriage to Ruth Nidesand in 1964/5 was statutory. That means he must have divorced Kezia before he left Kenya or he would have gone to jail when he married Ruth. He told the University he was divorced before he married Stanley Ann Dunham. Looks like for once he told the truth.

Anyway he didn’t go to Kenya in 1961 according to the INS file and the divorce action shows they married in Hawaii not Kenya.

Bad arguments just give points to your opponents.


44 posted on 05/12/2011 10:19:10 AM PDT by Will Escott
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
We are just days away from several more shoes dropping.

Those who believed the issue of eligibility had been settled once and for all are in for the shock of their life.

I know it goes against all conventional wisdom today to say this, but we may be witnessing the final days of the Barack Obama regime.

Farah seems to be promising us something irrefutable here. At this point I have my doubts, but we'll see.

45 posted on 05/12/2011 11:56:04 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: ml/nj

Thought you might be interested in these links:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/12/affidavit-filed-with-louisiana-court-declares-obama-birth-certificate-a-forgery/

Affidavit mentioned in above link: http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/55240893

and the link to the attorney that submitted it: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=21585

Personally I really think the BC is a fake too.


46 posted on 05/12/2011 12:07:00 PM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Will Escott; Fred Nerks; LucyT
Welcome to FR

That means he must have divorced Kezia before he left Kenya...

They never divorced.

He told the University he was divorced before he married Stanley Ann Dunham.

No he didn't.
47 posted on 05/12/2011 1:18:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ml/nj
I would still like to see two things.

1. Other birth certificates from Hawaii with the "txe" typo on Dr. Alvin Onaka's signature stamp. Or, an explanation for why the typo was allowed to remain on a stamp used on government documents.

2. The Hawaii Department of Health reproducing the Obama birth document on their own. Now that Obama released this document to the public domain, Hawaii can't hide behind privacy anymore. They should be able to make this document available to anyone who pays the fee for it.

-PJ

48 posted on 05/12/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: palmer

I know there are divorce papers in Hawaii. I don’t have records/copies of marriage in Hawaii. If you have such info or can refer me to such info I would be appreciative.


49 posted on 05/12/2011 2:07:37 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Political Junkie Too
an explanation for why the typo was allowed to remain on a stamp used on government documents.

I've seen others and the 'H' was an 'H' on them. I think the explanation for the 'X' on the Bamie BC II is that when the image was brought into the layering software it would have been transmogrified due to a junior software guy who thought "improving" the image was more important than providing a faithful rendition of whatever the scanning imager actually saw, or maybe there was a power surge when the image was doing the scanning and it just changed into an 'X'; or some other BS.

And obviously Hawaii should be willing to sell certified copies to anyone who wants to buy one as Obama has clearly waived his right to privacy regarding this document. Hasn't he?

ML/NJ

50 posted on 05/12/2011 2:14:14 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Will Escott

He told the University he was not married. This does not establish that he told the marriage licensing prople who would have, I believe, final authority to determine an eligible marriage license. Yes, bad arguments come from wrong data and missing data.


51 posted on 05/12/2011 2:22:10 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ml/nj
That's been the explanation at the back of my mind, that somehow the X was an H that had some processing done to it. I noticed that it was in a section of the stamp that looked more heavily inked than the outer edges, perhaps from rolling the stamp from left to right, or because of the center press. The innocuous explanation is that the built-in scanner software smoothed the image. The less safe explanation is that someone interceded and "improved" the image, as you suggest. If so, then it raises the question of why someone would improve the image rather than let it just be a straight scan as is.

However, it really does look like an X more than an H with contact-to-paper errors.

But of course, the real answer is to stop relying on computer facsimiles of one side of a document and just make the physical, tangible document available for inspection. Obama is setting a bad precedent if we are going to allow electronic facsimiles stand in for actual physical evidence.

-PJ

52 posted on 05/12/2011 3:48:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
That's been the explanation at the back of my mind, that somehow the X was an H that had some processing done to it.

I was being sarcastic. I think a more likely explanation is that some WH insider was trying to make Bamie BC II an obvious fraud in order to undermine Obama.

ML/NJ

53 posted on 05/12/2011 4:11:53 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
Sarcastic or not, there are only a few explanations.

1. The forger placed it there to be found.

2. The forger didn't notice it.

3. It was really an H with a bad ink/imprint.

4. It was automatically processed by OCR somehow when scanned, and the OCR faded the vertical parts of the H where the horizontal cross connected.

5. Someone post-scan processed it to clean it up.

6. It was a typo on the stamp and other birth certificates also show it.

I'm waiting for an official explanation.

I can't believe that Onaka has been using the same stamp all these years, because it would have worn out by now. Obama's COLB has different wording on the stamp, so we know it is a newer one. So, either we will find other certificates with the "TXE" on it, or the forger inserted it to be found. I can't see it as a "fat finger" typo because the H and the X are far apart on the keyboard.

-PJ

54 posted on 05/12/2011 4:41:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: ml/nj
And one other thing...

Nobody is talking about this typo.

Not even Farah is mentioning it in his editorials on the BC.

I wonder why?

-PJ

55 posted on 05/12/2011 4:43:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: ml/nj

OCR starts with thresholding and the two different layers are thresholded differently. I’ll demo it when I get some time.


56 posted on 05/12/2011 7:23:15 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: ml/nj
I say: Deliver or Disappear from these threads.

If you be so kind, please ping me to these threads since that would save me the trouble of searching for them.

57 posted on 05/12/2011 7:26:58 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: opentalk
John McCain is now defending and backing Obama's policies, makes me wonder if the fix was in in 2008.

Oh, you mean back when he threw the election?

58 posted on 05/12/2011 7:28:01 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: noinfringers2
I've seen it posted here: /focus/news/2699244/posts?page=246#246
59 posted on 05/12/2011 7:30:44 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
I’ll demo it when I get some time.

You've got plenty of time to blow smoke, Pal, don't you?

You'll pardon me if I don't believe you or any of the folks who tell us how common all these obvious anomalies are and promise reams of examples, but never show up with anything but their d***s in their hands.

ML/NJ

60 posted on 05/13/2011 4:13:29 AM PDT by ml/nj
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