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GERMAN PLANES BOMB BRITISH IN IRAQ; R. A. F. HITS BACK, RAIDS SYRIAN BASES (5/18/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/18/41 | C.L. Sulzberger, Hanson W. Baldwin, Heinz Pol, Henry James Forman

Posted on 05/18/2011 4:54:01 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Yesterday you said this is an enduring mystery of the Bismarck saga. Is there speculation as to his Lindemann's reasoning for not refueling? I can only think of two possibles - the extra time in port required and loss of secrecy. But if they were stopping for provisions anyway both become moot.

I've (so far) re-read passages from 5 books concerning this part of Bismarck's cruise and can find nothing that even guesses as to why he didn't top-up.
I'm going to check a few other sources because until it was mentioned on this thread, I had no idea how critical that decision, or non-decision, was.
I'm really curious now.

21 posted on 05/18/2011 10:31:07 AM PDT by Larry381 (If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
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To: Seizethecarp
The bio of the German “Lawrence” was fascinating, too.

Check back on Friday. (That is, the day after tomorrow. Not next Friday in 1941.) There will be another article about a "second Lawrence" named Major Glubb. I don't know why "Glubb of Arabia" didn't catch on like the original. Anyhow, it clearly didn't require David Lean and Peter O'Toole to put T.E. Lawrence on the map.

22 posted on 05/18/2011 10:35:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; PzLdr; Larry381

Here’s some enlightenment on the issue.

Battleship Bismarck: A Survivor’s Story
by Baron Burkard von Mullenheim-Rechberg
1980, U. S. Naval Institute, Annapolis, MD

Chapter 8 - Departure from Gotenhafen
pp. 75-76

“Liberty was cancelled as of noon May 17. Towards midday on the eighteenth the Bismark left the wharf at Gotenhafen... We did not put to sea immediately, however, but dropped anchor in the roadstead, in view of Gotenhafen. Great masses of provisions and fuel oil still had to be taken aboard. Although thousands of tons of fuel flowed into our bunkers, we could not fill them completely, because a hose ruptured, causing the fueling operation to be called off so that the mess could be cleaned up. By that time, our schedule forced provisioning to be brought to an end. The ship was not far short of being fueled to capacity, and no one then suspected how important this shortfall would become. The Bismark sailed at 0200 on 19 May.”


23 posted on 05/18/2011 10:43:43 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

It wasn’t Lindemann’s call. It was Lutjens. It’s purely speculation on my part, but I believe there was no effort to refuel at Bergen because Lutjens had a tanker or two stashed off northern Norway, and he intended to use them [a practice he used during Operation BERLIN].

But a combination of being spotted at Bergen by British aircraft and the increasingly poor weather [a benefit from his point of view] probably led him to head straight [as it were] for the Denmark Strait with the belief he’d slip through [the German Navy had used the Strait as a super highway since the beginning of the war] and be able to refuel in the Atlantic.


24 posted on 05/18/2011 11:19:43 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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It is amazing how up-to-date the NY Times intelligence was on Grobba. The Times was obviously getting a UK intelligence feed passed on from US intelligence. Grobba, amazingly, survived 10 years in Soviet detention after the war. Did they save and coddle him for grilling on Arab issues?

From Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Grobba Anglo Iraqi

WarOn 2 May 1941, after much tension between the Rashid Ali government and the British, the besieged forces at RAF Habbaniya under Air Vice-Marshal H. G. Smart launched pre-emptive air strikes against Iraqi forces throughout Iraq and the Anglo-Iraqi War began for real. On 3 May, German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop persuaded Hitler that Dr. Fritz Grobba be secretly returned to Iraq to head up a diplomatic mission to channel support to the Rashid Ali regime. Grobba was to return under the alias "Franz Gehrke."[9] Grobba's mission was to be sent to Iraq along with a military mission commanded by the High Command in the Armed Forces (Oberkommando der Wehrmacht, or OKW). The military mission had the cover name "Special Staff F" (Sonderstab F) and it included Brandenburgers and a Luftwaffe component. Sonderstab F was commanded by General Hellmuth Felmy.[10] On 6 May, Luftwaffe Colonel Werner Junck received instructions in Berlin that he was to take a small force of aircraft to Iraq. While under Junck's tactical direction, the force was to be under the overall direction of Lieutenant General Hans Jeschonnek and was to be known as "Airplane Commander for Iraq" (Fliegerführer Irak). The aircraft of Fliegerführer Irak were to have Iraqi markings and they were to operate out of an air base in Mosul, some 240 miles north of Baghdad.[9] Also on 6 May, Grobba and his mission flew from Foggia to Rhodes in two Heinkel 111 bombers which were dubbed the "Führer Courrier Squadron."[11] The mission was accompanied by two Messerschmitt 110 fighters. On 9 May, they reached Aleppo in Vichy French-held Syria.[12] On 10 May, the mission reached Mosul and, after contactoing the Iraqi government, Grobba was told to come to Baghdad as soon as was possible.[11] On 11 May, they reached Baghdad.[12] On May 16, Grobba met in Baghdad with Colonel Junck, Rashid Ali, General Amin Zaki, Colonel Nur ed-Din Mahmud, and Mahmud Salman. The group agreed to a number of priorities for Fliegerführer Irak. The first priority was to prevent the British flying column Kingcol from relieving RAF Habbaniya. The second priority was for Iraqi ground forces to take Habbaniyah with air support provided by Fliegerführer Irak. An overall priority for the Germans was to provide the Royal Iraqi Army with a "spine straightening." Much of the RIrA was known to be terrified of bombing by British aircraft.[13] In the end, Fliegerführer Irak failed to make the impact envisioned by the Germans, RAF Habbaniya was not taken by the Iraqi ground forces, and whether or not the Germans stopped Kingcol did not matter. The air and ground forces at the besieged air base drove off the Iraqis before Kingcol arrived. On 7 May, RAF armoured cars confirmed that the Iraqis on the escarpment above the base were gone.[14] It was not until 18 May that Kingcol finally arrived to "relieve" Habbaniya.[15] By 22 May, British and Commonwealth ground forces advancing from Habbaniya took and held Fallujah for good. They then began the advance on Baghdad itself. On 28 May, Grobba sent a panicked message from Baghdad reporting that the British were close to the city with more than one-hundred tanks. By then, Junck had no serviceable Messerschmitt 110 fighters and only two Heinkel 111 bombers with just four bombs between them.[16] Late on 29 May, Rashid Ali, several of his key supporters, and the German military mission fled under cover of darkness. On 30 May, Grobba himself fled Baghdad.[13] Grobba's escape took him through Mosul and then through Vichy French-held Syria. A British flying column commanded by Major R. E. S. Gooch and nicknamed Gocol was created to pursue and capture Grobba. To accomplish this, Gocol first made its way to Mosul and arrived there 3 June. The column then drove west and illegally entered French territory just prior to the commencement of the Syria-Lebanon Campaign. During the week following 7 June Gocol made every effort to capture Grobba. The column entered Al-Qamishli in Syria fully expecting to capture him there. But they were disappointed to find that Grobba had already been there and had already gone.[17] In the end, Gocol failed in its mission and Grobba successfully escaped to Nazi occupied Europe. [edit] German occupied EuropeIn February 1942, Grobba was named foreign ministry plenipotentiary for the Arab States, a job that entailed liaison between the Nazi German government and Arab exiles in Berlin, like Mohammad Amin al-Husayni. In December 1942, Grobba was named to the Paris branch of the German archives commission. He held this post until his brief return to the foreign ministry in April 1944. In June 1944, Grobba was officially retired from the foreign ministry. However, he continued to work there until the end of the year. In 1945, Grobba worked briefly in the economics department of the government of Saxony, in Dresden. At the end of the war, Grobba was captured and was kept in Soviet captivity until 1955.

25 posted on 05/18/2011 12:59:36 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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It is amazing how up-to-date the NY Times intelligence was on Grobba.

Another question is who is Heinz Pol, who wrote the piece? This is the first and only listing for the guy on my index by authors.

26 posted on 05/18/2011 1:16:34 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Here is a review of four books on the Fall of France in 1942 written by Heinz Pol for the Virginia Quarterly Review of Literature

https://www.vqronline.org/articles/1942/winter/pol-last-time/

Hmmm...Virginia is home to the Pentagon and wartime intelligence services...

Here is a book review in the NY Times of a book by Pol

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60715F83954107B93C1A9178BD95F478485F9

German Menace; THE HIDDEN ENEMY: THE GERMAN THREAT TO POSTWAR PEACE. By Heinz Pol. 275 pp. New York: Julian Messner, Inc. $3.

.By GEORGE N. SHUSTER ();
October 03, 1943,
, Section Book Review, Page BR12, Column , words
[ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]

MR. POL’S “hidden enemy” is the Pan-German movement, which he believes to have been a sort of brain trust which led the German Army and the German people into the wars of 1914 and 1939. A great deal has been written about Hasse, Klass and the other authors of the theory that Germans, being a superior people, were entitled to rule through conquest.


27 posted on 05/18/2011 3:57:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Thanks for doing the shovel work. So Pol was evidently based in the U.S., whatever his nationality and background. At least by 1942. I wonder how he came to such current knowledge about murky affairs in the middle east. Too bad the Times doesn’t normally insert brief bios in articles by guest writers.


28 posted on 05/18/2011 4:28:26 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Here we go:

The German version of Wiki translated:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Pol

Heinz Pol (born Heinz Pollack, * January 6 1901 in Berlin , † October 13th 1972 in New Milford / Connecticut ) was a German journalist , writer and film critic.

Pol distinguished himself as an independent leftist critics time. He was “the first film critics of the Voss newspaper, which he saw as the possibility of political influence as well. End of the 20 years he was an author of political novels also show time. From 1924 to 1933 he was with Charlotte Aron Charlotte Beradt later married.

After the rise of the Nazis, he sat down in June 1933 after Prague. There he was from January 1934 to July 1935 chief editor of the satirical magazine Simplicissimus and staff of the New World Stage. In June 1934, took pole with nine percent of the publisher of the New World Stage, where he was also rumored ambitions on the editorship of the paper. Because the cover of the magazine failed, he sold his share in November 1935.

Because of the increasing Soviet influence in 1936 ended his editorial Pol activity in Prague. He emigrated to Paris, where he worked for the Press and especially Mitropress regularly for the exiled German newspaper , the Paris daily newspaper wrote [1] .

Interned in 1939, he fled to New York in May 1940. In the U.S., he wrote articles for numerous magazines including The Nation , The New York Times and The New York Herald Tribune. Pol has also published books in which he criticized the Nazis violently.

He continued his journalistic activities continued after the end of World War II. Pol wrote for numerous European and German newspapers like the Frankfurter Rundschau and the Neue Ruhr Zeitung .


29 posted on 05/18/2011 5:58:07 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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