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How do I add a second DVD drive?
19 May 2011 | Mene

Posted on 05/19/2011 7:22:01 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Dear Freepers,

Can someone please give me some tips on installing my second DVD drive correctly. I have the ribbon cable end on the primary DVD RW drive and it works fine. The second DVD drive is on the middle ribbon cable connector.

The jumper on the back of the second DVD drive is on "slave". The compute recognizes the second DVD drive, but I cannot play a DVD in that drive. Any media player I run and try to "open" the movie on the second DVD drive does not "see" it. Any suggestions?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: dvddrive; jumpers; second
Any help is very much appreciated. Googled it, but still can't get it to work.
1 posted on 05/19/2011 7:22:15 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When using a modern IDE drive, the cable has 2 positions (Master and Slave).

You have a choice - you can set BOTH drives to AUTO negotiate; this works most of the time.

However, I prefer to delegate MASTER and SLAVE settings on each drive. This removes any confusion, as they are clearly defined.

You CANNOT have one drive set to AUTO and the other drive set to MASTER or SLAVE. When using AUTO, both drives must be set to AUTO.


2 posted on 05/19/2011 7:25:56 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Try changing from slave to cs cable select on the @nd drive,


3 posted on 05/19/2011 7:27:15 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Make sure the bit bucket is empty.


4 posted on 05/19/2011 7:28:17 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You might try going to your Add Hardware Manager and select the add software option to see if your media player can be linked.
5 posted on 05/19/2011 7:29:07 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Do you have the jumper on the original DVD player set on Master? Do you have a second IDE or SATA(not sure which interface you are using) plug on your motherboard that would allow you to connect the second player to the board directly? Just some thoughts.


6 posted on 05/19/2011 7:30:40 AM PDT by redangus
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Check your bios settings and make sure the 2nd drive is showing up correctly
7 posted on 05/19/2011 7:31:47 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Update drivers?


8 posted on 05/19/2011 7:33:42 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You can add an external drive quite easily. Do you have enough room on the mother board to add one? There are probably many websites to give step by step details on how to do this. The Public Libraries probably have many books on this. Choose the most satisfactory method for you.
9 posted on 05/19/2011 7:33:45 AM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: All

How confusing. Windows explorer shows DVD drive letter “F” to be a “RAM” drive, no RW capability. Explorer shows letter “G” to be a RW DVD drive. However, when I put a DVD in drive “F”, the top drive, it still shows it to be a “RAM” DVD drive although it is actually a RW drive and it shows the files. If I put the DVD in the second drive, the “G” drive, it doesn’t show up at all on the system and the system sees that drive as a RW drive when it is actually a RAM drive. How do I fix that?


10 posted on 05/19/2011 7:33:58 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: redangus

These are IDE drives. Don’t know about the second mother board connection yet. Will look into it.


11 posted on 05/19/2011 7:35:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Hodar

Be careful with the “master” and “slave” talk - it’s racist, donchaknow.

I think the new lingo is “community organizer” and “disenfranchised” or is it “union” and “member?”


12 posted on 05/19/2011 7:37:35 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

lol


13 posted on 05/19/2011 7:39:13 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Some devices had 3 jumper settings. Master/Slave/Cable select

Cable select meaning it behaving as master and no slave devices allowed.

Check your master device and see how it is set.

http://www.storagereview.com/guide/jumpIDE.html


14 posted on 05/19/2011 7:39:37 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Go to start>run and type compmgmt.msc. The Computer Management console should come up. On the left panel click on Disk Management. The drive should show up on the right-hand side of the console. If it doesn’t, either your system or Windows isn’t recognizing it. If it’s there, you might have to manually assign a drive letter to it, which you can do by right clicking on it and selecting Change Drive Letter and Path.


15 posted on 05/19/2011 7:40:53 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Since they are IDE drives, set the master jumper on the drive at the end of the cable, set the slave jumper on the drive at the middle of the cable. CS, or cable select jumper settings will work also. You didn't specify which flavor of windows you were using, but most work the same. Open “device manager” and delete the entries for both DVD drives. When you reboot the new hardware wizard should find and install drivers correctly.
16 posted on 05/19/2011 7:43:07 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: mountainlion

I agree woth mountainlion. The best option, IMO, is to get a USB external rewritable DVD drive. Then all you have to do, is plug it into an open USB port. Assuming you have the required HW & OS.


17 posted on 05/19/2011 7:43:25 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Take it to the shop????


18 posted on 05/19/2011 7:44:58 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

In the past I have found that when installing multiple optical drives, it is best to set the jumpers on each drive to CS (Cable Select). The Master/Slave config never worked for me on CD/DVD drives. Give it a shot. That way, the PC selects the relationships and will see both.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 7:45:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Okay, did that. The two CD-ROM drives show up at the bottom. The problem drive does not show media inserted when media has been inserted. The top drive does show media and its title in the Disk Management box. The odd thing is...the computer in “My Computer” gives a flipped ID to the two CD-ROM drives, showing the RW drive as the RAM drive and vice versa. ?????


20 posted on 05/19/2011 7:47:13 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: sbMKE
I've always wondered why the Master/Slave nomenclature persisted in the IT industry. The syntactical norm would be Primary/Secondary.

I don't care one way or the other but consistency in naming conventions always makes things easier.

21 posted on 05/19/2011 7:48:51 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Forgot how to get to “Device Manager”. Still looking... (old Fuddy Duddy here).


22 posted on 05/19/2011 7:49:18 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Found it. Cancel that...


23 posted on 05/19/2011 7:50:31 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Okay...now instead of having a problem with one CD-ROM drive, I’ve deleted both of them. Going to restart and see if the Wizard finds both of them and assigns them properly. Will let you know (if I ever make it back).


24 posted on 05/19/2011 7:52:38 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

First thing I need to know is the O/S

Typically when you add a device the system will recognize it and attempt to install the appropriate driver, you need to tell it to look at the CD I assume came with the device.

Once you have installed it look at the list of devices in DM and see that the correct model devices show up. Double click on the new device and look at properties, make sure it has the correct characteristics of the device there.

Going back to another post, I would ask did you replace a precious device (CD rom) The posters are correct, if the cable has the twist in the leads going to the second position then cable select or Auto will be best. If you had a previous device installed, you may need to remove it from the list in Device Manager to remove and confusion on the O/S part the features this device represents to it

Let me know if this helps

As mentioned in another post, control panel (XP) computer management, storage management will list all available devices. It will assign the next device number to this drive, you can change it there in the future should you need to.


25 posted on 05/19/2011 7:54:26 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
First thing: Does the CD, DVD or Blu-Ray drive connect via an IDE or an SATA connector. You may have either (or both) types of connectors on your motherboard.

Second thing: Make certain that the connection to the drive is enabled in the BIOS. This may also give you an additional way to change the order of the two drives.

Third thing: Check the Master/Slave settings on BOTH drives. If you want this (presumably newer) drive to be the primary drive, make it the master and change the older drive to the slave setting.

26 posted on 05/19/2011 8:03:41 AM PDT by reg45
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To: 100American

OS is XP. Deleted both CD-ROMs from Device Manager and restarted. Put DVD in top drive (F?) and it recognizes it. Put DVD in bottom drive (G?) and it does not recognize it, although “G” shows up on the list of drives. It asks me to place a disk in drive “G”. So, I put it in the top drive (F?) and it recognized it. So, is the computer seeing the primary top RW drive as both “F” and “G”. Pulling hair out.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 8:03:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Couple of thoughts...

Are you sure the new DVD drive actually works? It could be defective.

Try temporarily replacing the old drive with the new drive. Make sure the jumper setting on the new drive is the same as the old drive, and then move the data cable from the old drive to the new drive. If the new drive works, then you know it's a configuration issue.

Finally, you might have to reconfigure your DVD player software (or other software that uses the DVD drive) to access the new drive. Some software might not check for changes once it's installed.

Good luck!

28 posted on 05/19/2011 8:04:18 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Thanks for everyones’ help. Won’t recognize the second drive. Don’t know why. It appears to be working, green light on, slave setting. It just can’t see the DVD in there. May be defective.


29 posted on 05/19/2011 8:12:57 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If you have another IDE slot on your motherboard for harddrives, try getting another ribbon cable and plugging the end plug into your second drive. You can try a different ribbon cable and see if that works, but if you swap the drives (set up the Master as slave and slave as master) and you get the same result, then it is your bios program.
I think your motherboard is seeing the DVD drive, but you are not passing data.
That, and it is windows...so it normally never works with anything, anyway!!

I went Mac and will never go back, precisely for this reason!

Cheers


30 posted on 05/19/2011 8:14:25 AM PDT by gr8eman (People who have no souls never "Soul Search"!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It is possible that you have a bad cable, bad drive, bios problem or combination. If you install only the drive that you are having a problem with, does it work?


31 posted on 05/19/2011 8:26:19 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Did you follow the directions that came with the second DVD drive and use the install disk?

Sounds like a codec problem if the drive lights up and you see both in explorer.


32 posted on 05/19/2011 8:27:36 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Primary and secondary are already used in reference to the controllers and each controller can support two devices.
Hence primary master and primary slave are the two devices on the primary controller, secondary master and secondary slave are on the secondary controller.


33 posted on 05/19/2011 8:29:26 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I can’t believe I am the first.

Ahem...

ARE YOU LOGGED ON?

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, I’ll be here all week- try the Veal~!


34 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You said ribbon cable, so I’m assuming you have an IDE device.
First thing to verify is that the device shows up in your BIOS. If you don’t see it in the POST, Windows won’t see it either. You may need to go into your bios and make sure you have primary/secondary slave/master enabled. Usually you can just set all 4 to auto-detect. If the bios settings are ok, then verify jumpers on BOTH drives. Either set both to auto (CS- cable select) or one to master and one to slave.
That should be all it takes, and Windows will assign it a drive letter automatically.


35 posted on 05/19/2011 8:38:09 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Ribbon cable? Good god, man! That went out with B&W television!

Master/Slave or both CS. If that’s not working then swap drive positions on the cable. If this still doesn’t work then it should tell you if the cable is bad or the drive is bad or your computer needs an update. That’s not a bad idea. If it’s old, see about upgrading the bios in it.

New dvd writers are $20. Stay away from flea markets.


36 posted on 05/19/2011 8:54:25 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: Hodar
“...Master and Slave...”

Couldn't that be construed as racist talk?

37 posted on 05/19/2011 9:14:58 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: NCC-1701

Yeah, and we can’t use the terms “Male” and “Female”; as that could be considered insulting to all the fags. Instead, we must now use the terms “Plug” and “Receptical”.

However, I don’t support the Thought Police, or the PC crowd. The terms are what they are. Male/Female, and Master/Slave .... they need to put on the Big Boy Pants and quit being a bunch of snivelling sodomites.


38 posted on 05/19/2011 9:21:55 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Mr. K; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I can’t believe I am the first.

Ahem...

ARE YOU LOGGED ON?

Better yet - ARE YOU LOGGED ON AS ADMINISTRATOR?

WinXP can allow all actions as an Admin to any login, but won't allow physical changes. Just a thought. Good luck.

39 posted on 05/19/2011 10:20:45 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Johnny B.
It could be defective.

You were right. Found another CD-Rom drive in the house and installed it. It works. Thanks to everyone. Free Republic rocks, it absolutely rocks. No other place where I feel like I can talk to family and actually get truthful answers.

40 posted on 05/19/2011 11:37:10 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
No other place where I feel like I can talk to family and actually get truthful answers.

Just don't ask about your Uncle Sid.

41 posted on 05/19/2011 12:28:53 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I once had a problem like this, and the only work around I could find, was to put each DVD drive on a seperate ribbon cable. 1 HDD and 1 1 DVD one a ribbon cable, and the same with the other HDD & DVD. The two differenbt DVD drives just would not cooperate on the same ribbon cable.


42 posted on 05/19/2011 1:09:24 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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