Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Want to purchase a Saiga 7.62X39. Any reason I shouldn't? (vanity)
Vanity, all is vanity ^ | 5.24.11 | Free Vulcan

Posted on 05/24/2011 6:00:23 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

I've been wanting to get a AK pattern rifle for quite awhile. Got a generous tax return and am looking at the Saiga 7.62X39 that JG Sales is offering right now for $349.00.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 762x39; banglist; gun; rifle; saiga
I wanted to run it past our think tank of gun aficionados to get their opinions. Is there anything that should steer me away from this gun, or are there better options out there (within the same price range)?

This is the best price I've seen on any AK variant. JG Sales is the largest advertiser in Shotgun News, they seem to be professional and reputable. Anyone had good or bad dealing with them?

1 posted on 05/24/2011 6:00:27 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Good rifle. Good price. I’ve got it in .223.


2 posted on 05/24/2011 6:07:42 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wtc911

Good gun.
Better trigger and slight accuracy edge over the AK-47s I have seen.
You can easily modify AK magazines to fit, as well.
Problem: it does not look as cool; no bayonet.


3 posted on 05/24/2011 6:13:03 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo IDs for voters: Let the dead rest in peace!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All

Was thinking about getting on myself.


4 posted on 05/24/2011 6:13:41 AM PDT by newnhdad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Got a pic?

Nothing better than gun porn in the wee hours...


5 posted on 05/24/2011 6:14:07 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: newnhdad

“on” should be “one”


6 posted on 05/24/2011 6:14:27 AM PDT by newnhdad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
Depends on what you want it for.
http://savvysurvivor.com/saiga_rifles.htm
7 posted on 05/24/2011 6:16:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I have a Siaga in 12 guage as my “house” shotgun.

Not pretty, not “finely” made, but has 12 round capacity and works first time, every time.

Very pleased.

Goo luck.


8 posted on 05/24/2011 6:19:33 AM PDT by MindBender26 (While the MSM slept.... we have become relevant media in America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Time is right, they are legal to buy, today anyway. AWB legislation has Obama’s drool all over it though, so better hurry.

Been a while, but I think 5.45 X 39 ammo is cheaper, but ballistics advantages of each is another topic. Go for it.

Before the ban is passed, be sure to get an AR as well. I sold my Century Arms SAR-1 and SAR-2 for an M-4 styled AR. I love shooting the AR.


9 posted on 05/24/2011 6:21:34 AM PDT by Wildbill22
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

You should not be buying anything until you pay me the money you owe me - $500.00!

;-)


10 posted on 05/24/2011 6:23:21 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Tough enough to have survived the end of the world)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RandallFlagg
Probably something along the lines of this.


11 posted on 05/24/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: deoetdoctrinae

OOHHH! VERY nice.

Thank you.


12 posted on 05/24/2011 6:31:16 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
Saiga is an AK scion, with all inherited traits, minus battle proven robustness and “theoretical” ability to fire in full auto. For the same price, I would get an AK. If you want more accuracy and don't care for full auto - quality SKS would be my choice.
13 posted on 05/24/2011 6:32:11 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: deoetdoctrinae

gun orgasm?


14 posted on 05/24/2011 6:35:09 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
I had no bad dealing with JG Sales. My purchase from them is a CZ-82, a PSL-54c and two Mosin Nagent M1891/30s. All are surplus weapons. Prices are more reasonable compared to the gun stores in my area.
15 posted on 05/24/2011 6:37:34 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I don’t know about the rifle, but I’ll point out that your tax refund was not “generous,” its yours, repaid to you without interest.

(BTW, any serious working rifle should have iron sights, so you get my “yes” on that score.)


16 posted on 05/24/2011 6:40:38 AM PDT by S. Ruger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
These come with a 10 round polymer magazine and the rifle is not suitable to use standard AK high cap magazines. These Saigas are made in Russia by Izhmash and imported by TGI.

Rifles are at a good price, but the magazine issue would be a deal killer for me.

You can get a high cap AK from classicarms.us for about $420.

17 posted on 05/24/2011 6:41:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Roger_Wildcat

You know offhand what their shipping charges are?


18 posted on 05/24/2011 6:42:55 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


19 posted on 05/24/2011 6:46:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
Just curious....are you more interested in the AK action or the 7.62x39 round? There are some very decent Kalashnikov variants available in 5.45x39 and obviously 5.56x45.
20 posted on 05/24/2011 6:54:41 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Roger_Wildcat

Ive bought a few rifles and acessories from them also. Never had a problem, they are a straight up company.


21 posted on 05/24/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by jospehm20
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

In Feb 2009, two mosin shipped weighing 24lbs shipped for $23.86.

You can look it up by going to jgsales.com, putting the desired gun in the cart and type in the zipcode for the shipping price. For the Saiga rifle shipping to Jacksonville, FL showed $18.83.

You also have to factor in the transfer fee plus background check that you going to get charged by the gunstore that the rifle is shipping to.


22 posted on 05/24/2011 7:04:50 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: MindBender26

I had to have my saiga 12 fixed under warranty for ejection problems, but works great now and warranty process was awesome.


23 posted on 05/24/2011 7:06:05 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Flintlock
You don't have to trim the nub on an AK mag...promag makes Saiga specific mags...

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/promag-30-rd-saiga-223-mag.aspx?a=467765

24 posted on 05/24/2011 7:24:10 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Pro-mag makes Saiga specific 10, 20, 30 rd mags...see link above.


25 posted on 05/24/2011 7:26:15 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Actually for the same money there is a 10 rd ak available from centerfire systems. Bulgarian thick wall stamped receiver
Completely combat parts, (no made for export parts and with all the appropriate ak furniture, chrome lined styer heavy barrel. Undoubtedly the best ak on the market today. With the only downside being the 10 rd magazine. Current price $379.
$100-$150 for the professional, legal modification to accept High cap mags. Centerfire Systems and JG sales are both reputable companies


26 posted on 05/24/2011 7:38:38 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

The saiga in 12 gauge is interesting. As a rifle it’s another AK variant that is about the same as all of them.


27 posted on 05/24/2011 8:09:53 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wtc911

good to know


28 posted on 05/24/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: esquirette

I see Mr. Esq. has discovered my password.....


29 posted on 05/24/2011 8:49:13 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
We have one - used for deer hunting.

So long as you don't expect tack driver accuracy you'll be happy.

30 posted on 05/24/2011 8:51:53 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
I had to have my saiga 12 fixed under warranty for ejection problems, but works great now and warranty process was awesome.

Ditto. Smooth and quick with not a penny out of pocket.

UPS store staff almost peed when I tried to ship it though. A driver showed up while I was in the store and he took it without so much as a raised eyebrow.

31 posted on 05/24/2011 10:17:47 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan

Deer hunting with an AK variant sure makes it challenging.


32 posted on 05/24/2011 10:19:12 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I own 2 of ‘em. Not bad and never a bit of trouble.


33 posted on 05/24/2011 10:19:54 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Durus
Deer hunting with an AK variant sure makes it challenging.

How so?

34 posted on 05/24/2011 10:58:22 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan
The picture on #11 is not the same model you requested info about. Here is a photo of that you want;

The action and manufacture is on the level of "cheap" and you may regret the problems you may have if you buy it. It is highly inaccurate, and some of the reviews I have seen do not sound real good. I would never consider buying a stamped piece of junk like this. (My opinion, since I have been seriously spoiled by H&K 91's, Winchester pre-64 Mod 70's and Remingon 700's.)

35 posted on 05/24/2011 11:17:19 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I have a 16” carbine in 7.62x39 I bought back when they were going for $179. I took 2 wild boar hunting in Florida with my brother’s .308 Saiga. They’re a great value even at today’s prices.


36 posted on 05/24/2011 12:58:30 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

Been a while since I owned one.
I see from others that promags makes some high cap magazines for it now - they either did not or I was not aware of it at the time. IIRC, the chamber was flat, no ramp into it, and a standard AK mag would slam the round into the wall below the chamber.
Seems like I ran into talk about legality issues when it came to adapting the weapon to take the mags, or the mags to take to the weapon. I don’t know about all that.
Decent 7.62x39 accuracy, not much different from an SKS, so not great.
Probably not the sturdiest weapon, issues with reliable aftermarket mags, etc...
For around the same price, if that is the round you want, I would go with some other posters and say spring for an AK.


37 posted on 05/24/2011 1:13:02 PM PDT by Apogee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

I have one. Love it. Bought it for 250.


38 posted on 05/24/2011 1:32:12 PM PDT by goseminoles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan
An AK is heavier and inherently less accurate than most hunting rifles. 7.62x39 ballistics are just slightly worse than the 30-30...so that isn't great.

A modest used bolt action or lever actions rifle is about the same money as an AK so cost isn't really a factor.

So really the only reason to use an AK for hunting is for the challenge. I respect that. It's like using 2 lb test line for trout.

39 posted on 05/24/2011 1:35:31 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Durus
We hunt in the Badlands of Western North Dakota in a real remote area.

Primarily we are after Mule deer, but you can pull an any anterless tag and go after whitetails too.
You seem to be either shooting very long range from butte to butte or very short as you flush them out of ravines and creek beds.

For the distance work, scoped .270 Win Remington 700's or Ruger M77's are the preferred tool.

Short jobs require a quick carbine. So either Ruger Mini-30's or AKs do the job quite well.
I've dropped into thickly wooded ravines so tight you can only carry a handgun.

40 posted on 05/24/2011 2:10:00 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: grobdriver

“Depends on what you want it for.”

3AM housecleaning?;)


41 posted on 05/24/2011 5:09:39 PM PDT by Frank_2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan

Sounds like a good time.


42 posted on 05/24/2011 5:25:27 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Niteranger68

I’m interested in the cartridge. Relatively cheap and good stopping power.


43 posted on 05/24/2011 5:27:45 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Roger_Wildcat

Thanks! I got a local guy that will do it for $30.


44 posted on 05/24/2011 5:28:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: mrmeyer; goseminoles

Wish I could get them at those prices today. With the possibility of high inflation on the horizon I want to get at least one locked down before that may occur.


45 posted on 05/24/2011 5:38:11 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: School of Rational Thought

'You owe me $500, no gun for you!'

46 posted on 05/24/2011 5:45:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: All

Thanks everyone for the input.


47 posted on 05/24/2011 5:46:44 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Durus
Sounds like a good time.

Nothing is better than being in a wall tent with guys who don't shower for a week.

The place is so remote the deer don't know what a human is and will flush maybe 10-20 feet in front of you.

Rounds downrange = meat in freezer.

48 posted on 05/24/2011 7:35:15 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: deoetdoctrinae
That's a Saiga that has been imported and reconfigured to AK appearance by a company called Arsenal that's out of Las Vegas. They replace an ugly monte carlo stock and all the other furniture, add the pistol grip, re-locate the trigger group to its correct location, add the AK-74 style muzzle brake, and make the gun able to use standard AK mags.

I have one, and it is a very nice AK variant. The one pictured is model SGL-21/61 and has an MSRP of $799.

49 posted on 05/24/2011 11:34:47 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Free Vulcan

very good price. soon as you get it I urge you to look into converting it to look like an ak-47 with the proper furniture for it and so it can accept real AK magazines.


50 posted on 05/25/2011 2:36:26 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson