The secret they are keeping is the gender of the baby. The whole world now knows the children are being asked to keep a secret. It is a weird thing to keep now that the baby is born but they aren’t being asked to keep the secret because the outside world won’t understand. They are asked to keep it because they dont want anyone to know.
Where do you get the idea that the children are in isolation? The article (not sure which one) said specifically that the older child wanted his parents to tell a group leader of his that he was a boy and not a girl because he liked the person. He obviously has outside contact with people. Are you going by the fact that they home educate the children? If so this misconception aboout the isolation of homeschoolers has been refuted time and time again.
The article never stated that they consider outsiders bad. Obviously they don’t consider the grandparents outsiders or bad but they haven’t told the grandparents either. The grandparents are supportive.
None of those things are telltale signs of abuse. Here is a list if you would like to look at it. As far as WE know none of these things apply, iow there is no evidence.
http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/factsheets/signs.cfm
Especially note the part about parents being secretive as a sign of abuse. They have one secret and everyone knows what it is. These parents are ANYTHING but secretive about how they are raising their children. In fact, they want the world to know. They have an agenda to share.
In regards to your other post.
I would not be concerned about a 7 year old sharing a bed with parents. Co sleeping happens all over the world often in one room houses and it isn’t wrong just because our culture thinks every child needs his own room. There isn’t anything sexual about sleeping. Of course the parents would need to find creative ways to be intimate as that would be inappropriate in a shared bed.
And btw, I can’t believe that I am in the position of defending these people. I think what they are doing is reprehensible. But you know why I do it, because there have been plenty of liberals on the internet that have said people like me should be investigated. That children like mine should be taken away. Do you know why? Because I am a Christian and I teach my children a Christian worldview and I homeschool them. If I do not defend the rights of other parents to raise their children without the interference of the state how can I expect to raise mine without it.
Again, if you have evidence that these children are being abused physically or sexually then lets see it. You don’t and you can’t because you don’t know them personally. Until you do, your comments are irresponsible.
My debate with you on this issue reminds me of a debate I had with Sean Hannity on his show once. Hannity defends Howard Stern and the porn promotion that he does on public radio because he believes that if he doesnt defend Howard’s pornographic show being on public radio that then the same arguments used against Howard Stern may be twisted to be used against him.
In this case you are willing to defend people who skirt right along the lines of child abuse with their philosphical beliefs because you fear that if you dont then the same arguments will be used to attack Chrisitianity or homeschooling.
Live in fear if you want. I do not view it as a conservative principle to turn my back if I think that children are possibly being abused and I do see enough signs of that here to hope that there is an investigation. I will still be able to defend Christianity and homeschooling regardless though.
What the parents admit to in so far as secrets is simply just what they admit. But just the fact that they are telling their children to keep secrets based upon the premise that the outside world is bad is troubling.
I also have not seen any reference in the article to their sleeping arrangements being for any other reason then that is the way the parents like it.
You still haven’t told me at what age you may finally be concerned about parents sleeping with the same kids that they teach to crossdress.
The fact that these parents are teaching the kids to crossdress at all is troubling enough.
I also do not see much reference at all to these kids having any normal contact with the outside world at all. Kids could have some contact and still be isolated if they are continually being coached day and night by the parents. The kid Jazz seems to speak like a parrot of his parents.