Posted on 06/10/2011 3:13:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
First of all a survival advantage is only and advantage evolutionarily speaking if you are able to pass on your genes. Hence the formal definition of the Darwin award.
They could have been the best hunter gatherers in the world but if they couldn’t reproduce - it doesn’t count. And reproduction could very well depend on some degree of social skills.
Secondly wasn’t there info just recently focusing on *mutations* as cause for Autism? If so the sickle cell analogy won’t work as sickle cell is due to a recessive gene that is passed on with normal recessive mendelian genetics - not really sure how *mutations* get passed on - almost sounds oxymoronic to me.
If they were better off, then there’s more likelihood of Autism being noticed, not less. There’s plenty of evidence to suggest that autism levels rose after coming to the US.
Somalis may well have a very high incidence of autism that no one has ever studied before.
Give you another example ~ Western Europeans in Europe and the United States have a cholesterol problem. People from far northern Europe and SE India don't.
Until quite recently it was believed this was a result of their diet and high levels of outdoor activity. More recently they've come to believe it's hereditary.
They look quite different really.
The golden age for being autistic may have been before there was spoken language. :’)
Autism linked to hundreds of spontaneous genetic mutations
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732633/posts
Autistic Reporter: Train Thankfully Unharmed In Crash That Killed Man
http://www.theonion.com/video/autistic-reporter-train-thankfully-unharmed-in-cra,20098/
You’re absolutely mistaken if you think that people wouldn’t notice 1-in-28 children of any generation being autistic, doctor or no doctor.
Hmmm, I don’t know about Northern Europeans, but Indians who come to the US (or the west in general) have a fairly high rate of heart disease. Yes, diet absolutely plays a part in Heart Disease, is anyone surprised.
The Dravidian people in SE India are really different from the others. They do not have a serious cholesterol problem. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a heart attack problem of course, but the causes are different.
http://somalidoc.com/smf/index.php?topic=968.0 is rather informative. I think you could have 10 out of 28 with different levels of autism and their families/tribes would keep that hidden in Somalia!
“The prevelance of the condition is high enough that exploration of benefits from the trait is reasonable.”
About that prevelance...I just hope that mother nature isn’t about to turn the clock back 5000 years!
I believe adults with Autism do have jobs. It appears you have gradually stopped trying to being aware of facts too. So in the Real World not having a family makes you worthless? Hey Ann Coutler did you here that?
No you don’t understand, and your ignorance becomes much more obvious the more you write. Modern genetics is the foundation of future science. This is the root of where this unbelievable science will grow. The individual genetic blueprint is the template.
You may want to start to begin your faith again because Modern Medicine has given us a lot of information about Autism in just the past couple of years.
I’m not saying it’s impossible, not at all. People overcome much adversity, and that even makes them better people. Doesn’t change the fact that autism makes some things harder to do and that’s a disadvantage.
That is all.
Now it appears you understand my point. Those with Autism are making this world a better place. I guess it wasn’t such a “horrible” explanation after all.
Well, that assumes that High Cholesterol is indeed the problem, which is by no means clear. Heart Disease is the real problem, and Dravidians don’t seem to be immune from it, they may even have a higher risk.
Thanks gleeaikin.
Low cholesterol doesn't necessarily give you protection against heart trouble.
My latest readings were:
CHOLESTEROL 134
CHOLESTEROL, NON-HDL 103
CHOLESTEROL, HDL 31
CHOLESTEROL, LDL 59
And, I know what all of this means ~ to wit: 134 is good, 103 is good, 31 is bad, 59 is good.
That I haven't had a significant change in over a decade is good. I've been working on the low HDL reading ~ when combined with a high LDL reading that's really bad ~ but no matter how much exercise I engage in, or what foods I eat over long periods of time, the readings don't budge.
My father is in his 90s and he has comparable readings ~ except his HDL is even lower.
It is presumptively HEREDITARY and under special circumstances it has a selective advantage. We think it has to do with eating a diet of almost nothing but sea mammals for several thousand years. This gives you a running start in the cholesterol sweepstakes. I am sure that if I could import canned seal from nearby Canada I could FIX my cholesterol problems in just a few months ~ maybe get those readings at least half way up to normal.
You seem to think she can't be happy or fulfilled unless she has the kind extroverted superficial lifestyle of you expect.
If these changes are present by the 8th division, then they should certainly look at prenatal factors in South Korea with an estimated 1 in 36 rate.
At 72, Kaiser Permanente was concerned that my cholesterol was above 200. On the other hand my blood pressure, is usually down below 110 over 65, or occasionally slightly higher. They asked if I wanted to take Lipitor. My response was that my grandfather lived to be 98, one of his sisters lived to 103 (she was a jolly person), and her other sisters died in their middle to upper 90s. My father who did not quit smoking until 87 died at 90 (after he had a stroke), and my mother died at 89 from congestive heart failure when the pig valve they inserted for her bad mitral valve 10 years earlier failed. All but one of her 5 brothers and sisters died in their 90s.
Since I don’t have a bad heart valve, have never smoked, don’t have a bad temper like my father, get more exercise than my mother and eat very healthy food, I said “no thanks”. I hope I did the right thing. I just wish I knew what my grandfather’s cholesterol levels were like.
I’ve only seen one centenarian doctor. :’)
Is it irony or coincidence that your eloqui mimics the emotionally-inconsiderate norm which she encounters every few hours of every day?
Sure, I understand that the Lord chose me to raise her and her unique personality. For years and years, I’ve helped her embrace her uniqueness. And just like everyone has their ups and downs, I’m traveling down the hill at the moment, and I see junior high up ahead with a huge year of transitions and changes fast approaching.
As far as I know, none of my daughter’s peers have Aspergers. I am so frustrated that these “normal” kids never invite her anywhere or to anything. It’s heart-crushing. Of course we have invited kids here many times before, but play dates are usually a one-time deal and not reciprocated.
No, I don’t want to change my daughter, but how is anyone to survive without friends?
This is probably the hardest thing I’ve ever faced in my life. It kills me to see so much pain and loneliness in my daughter’s eyes. I’m glad for you, though, that things seem to be working on your end.
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