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Scientists predict rare 'hibernation' of sunspots
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| 6/14/11
| Kerry Sheridan
Posted on 06/14/2011 8:12:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins
Let’s say, just for the sake of argument, that they are right and we have both global warming and AGW. If it is also true that the world is losing solar input, then global warming is good because it will mitigate the cooling. If global warming is good and it is caused by human activity, then that activity is also good because it is offsetting the next Little Ice Age.
Go, humans!
To: null and void
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posted on
06/14/2011 8:43:25 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: goodnesswins
Don’t think so, I think we are just beginning to leave the longest and deepest sunspot minimum in my lifetime or possibly much longer.
I am a Ham Op and have followed this stuff most of my life.
We have known for over 100 years that weather patterns are more variable during sunspot minimums and maximums. There were some correlations drawn about this about 200 years ago.
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posted on
06/14/2011 8:45:15 PM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
To: goodnesswins
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posted on
06/14/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT
by
Errant
To: goodnesswins
The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to scientists who have published recent papers on the topic.
Please forgive us if we confused a bit of dogma with real science.
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posted on
06/14/2011 8:46:07 PM PDT
by
newheart
(When does policy become treason?)
To: Errant
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posted on
06/14/2011 8:48:41 PM PDT
by
Errant
To: Paladin2
I’m surprised you recognized him without his hockey stick...
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:07:54 PM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 874 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
To: Errant
could you please supply a link/source for your graph?
Much appreciated.
To: BereanBrain
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:19:37 PM PDT
by
Errant
To: vbmoneyspender
We’ve made the sun gods angry with our energy use and so now he’s going to freeze our butts just as Algore succeeds in cutting our heating oil and electrical supplies.
Also the global warming freaks have set out on a massive emergency climate engineering program to block the heat of the sun in the atmosphere.
To: goodnesswins
Weve been living with one of the coolest springs on record..... Heh.....come to Texas. It's already late summer here.
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:24:27 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: goodnesswins
"This is highly unusual and unexpected," said Frank Hill, associate director of the NSO's Solar Synoptic Network..." Bloody hell. Do they all have to talk this way? Do they even hear themselves?
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:26:23 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: BereanBrain
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:45:04 PM PDT
by
Errant
To: Drill Thrawl
That’s exactly the book I was thinking of. :)
Pretty interesting read except they think the science FICTION writers can save the world. 8-D
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06/14/2011 9:52:52 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(The US today: Revelation 18:4)
To: goodnesswins
The next thing you know, they’re going to be telling us that the sun affects the earth’s climate or something silly like that.
To: Drill Thrawl
Yeah, thought of that myself. Maybe life imitates art, in which case we are screwed....
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posted on
06/14/2011 9:56:19 PM PDT
by
Kozak
("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
To: goodnesswins
"READ the LAST two Paragraphs.....it says it won't affect global warming even if it lasts a century..... "
Well, even they admitted that a minimum will make the weather colder.
"Moreover, any offset of global warming due to a grand minimum of solar activity would be merely a temporary effect, since the distinct solar minima during the last millennium typically lasted for only several decades or a century at most."
Feulner and Stefan Rahmstorf said that the effect would happen ("offset") but be temporary. So what? It'll get colder and warmer, in cycles. It's going to be fun, watching the hordes, unable to afford heat, begin to move southward within two or three years from now.
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posted on
06/14/2011 10:24:46 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Shut up, and eat your brains!)
To: goodnesswins
The biggest effect of sunspots is not from any difference in heat hitting the planet, but from the “umbrella effect”. High sunspot activity extends from the sun in all directions and deflects cosmic rays from reaching Earth and the other planets. Cosmic rays create clouds when they hit the atmosphere, and that causes cooling. So more sunspots means fewer clouds and warming. Fewer sunspots will mean cooling disproportionate to the difference in actual output from the sun.
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posted on
06/14/2011 10:42:12 PM PDT
by
Kellis91789
(There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
To: null and void
Mann is prominently displayed in the Pantheon of leftist Climate “Science” Rogues in my home lab.
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posted on
06/15/2011 4:47:19 AM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: Errant
The next Ice Age is overdue and could arrive any day now.
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posted on
06/15/2011 4:50:22 AM PDT
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Paladin2
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