Posted on 06/20/2011 5:05:27 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
Wow you are really a monster, with absolutely no grasp of the concept of justice.
True, but only once or twice at a time.
You realize that:
1. There are innocent as well as guilty people in jails.
2. Homosexual rape spreads AIDS.
3. Non-violent offenders entering prison won’t be so non-violent coming out after being raped.
The bottom line is that no one deserves to be tortured and terrorized. Most prisoners who are victims are young kids in on drug charges. You may have a stern view of justice, but I don't think the sentence for drug possession should be weekly or daily rapes.
“Contrary to popular belief, most of the perpetrators were not other prisoners but staff members—corrections officials whose job it is to keep inmates safe.”
I don’t buy that most of the rapes were from the guards. Most of the rapes might have been facilitated by the guards, though. I think the prison industry has an interest to keep the recidivism rate high, someone who goes to prison for a minor crime who is treated like a beast might be more likely to act like a beast when released.
Freegards
Too bad you can't spell jeopardy, either.
So, you think it is OK to expose inmates to homosexual rape, AIDS, mental problems from that day on, just because they crossed some goddamn line that no one knew about??? Hey, buddy, maybe next week speeding tickets will get you thrown in pound-your-butt incarceration. Happy with that?
Choose to be outlaws?????
You do not have a freaking clue, do you?
Morons like you are the reason that the jackboots could be just around the corner. You allow horrifying abuses, as long as someone you don't like is the victim... and you're somehow stupid enough to not realize that you're simply next on the list, now that you've opened the door for this kind of abuse.
Did they or did they not choose to be outlaws? Simple question.
Your passion would be admiral if it were directed at protecting the innocent first.
First, conservatives have broken no laws therefore the felon analogy does not fit.
Second, I never said that any authority has the right to abuse those under that authority. What I said was all issues cannot be corrected all at once. Therefore one must prioritize. Seems to me protecting the innocent, unborn humans, should be at the top of any moral and caring persons list.
Third, the fact is 99.9% of people in prison chose to commit a crime, were tried and convicted. They had a choice and chose poorly. Policies, rules and laws are made to protect or otherwise promote the norm. They aren’t and cannot be so perfect that some infinitesimally small percent of the population is wronged.
As for drug abusers: First, people caught possessing drugs and drug paraphenalia—not selling or otherwise distributing—generally are given multiple rehab opportunities before the ever see the inside of a jail. Experience has shown that most of them are not rehabbed. Experience has also shown that users require increasing amounts of drugs to satisfy their cravings. Most drug abusers are not well off financially. Therefore, they ultimately resort to theft and violence to satisfy their habit. Second, Illegal drug makers and sellers are breaking the law. Therefore, they are criminals. Third, doing drugs is a choice that has long term negative effects on individuals and societies. I cannot and will not expend an ounce of energy on these people. I tried to be involved with two people in the past. Waste of time. What really ticked me off was that I had to sleep with my firearm handy until my brother-in-laws son was finally imprisoned. So don’t try to make the argument with me that drugs is somehow a victimless crime.
Many of the prisoners have NOT even gone to trial.
You are cool with State sponsored crime but want to punish citizens harshly.
You are defending an indefensible idea. If you want an anti abortion thread, find an article that interests you and post it. Stay off this one. Abortion is wrong. State sponsored prison rape? Good lord.
“conservatives have broken no laws “
Really? Conservatives/Christians have never been jailed for homeschooling, spanking their children, picketing an abortion clinic, or street preaching?
considering another thread here on FR posted about the 20% of rape convictions which where disproven after modern DNA tests, it is very difficult to be indifferent. (per innocence project which seeks to have old cases with DNA evidence reexamined.)
it does not take much to have some liberal judge declare this issue to be cruel and unusual punishment and then realease all of them into your neighborhood.
Let’s try this again. I said being conservative breaks no law. Is this true or not? Simple question. Only requires a yes or no answer.
Do some who call themselves conservative break the law? Regretably but certainly.
I’m delighted DNA science has progressed to where it can be used to clear innocent people—and it should be. However, keep in mind it is not a perfect science. Some of the guilty will go free based on DNA evidence.
I’m also suspicious of the alledged 20% of those convicted of rape actually being innocent. I would like to know precisely how that 20% number was produced.
That said, I wonder what % of the convicted felon population is represented by rapists. I suspect it’s a relatively small percent. So we get back to the very real issue of priortizing what we expend our emotions and money on.
It should also be pointed out that there are private entities already championing the wrongly convicted cause. It should be pointed out, too, that the government has not eased or eliminated even one societal failing. It has exacerbated every problem it has tried to address.
full stop
it only states that the dna on/in the woman (or victim) was not that of the convicted person. That is enough to kick out the conviction.
it only states that the dna on/in the woman (or victim) was not that of the convicted person. That is enough to kick out the conviction.
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