Posted on 07/14/2011 4:07:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker
I saw absolutely nothing unique and nothing the iPad has not already done before. The reviewers are underwhelmed. . . You are aware that the iPhone was a web app based OS it's first year weren't you, Dennis? Nothing new.
Growing when everyone else is shrinking is.
All Apple laptops are primarily designed and engineered in Taiwan with some input from Cupertino such as -—
“Stevie says to get rid of the purple option on that laptop”
“Stevie says to get a cheaper wireless chip for the 13” laptops, the suckers won’t know the difference””
“Please don’t tell the boys over at Asus how you did that for us! Thanks.”
“Can you give us X number of pixels?”
“Can you arrange with the ChiComs to form the Aluminum thusly?”
Manny Pacquiao HP TouchPad with WebOS Commercial>>>>>>>
You obviously don’t know how big Manny Pacquiao is across Asia. Billions of Asians are going buy HP’s TouchPad due to him. Apple will lose 98% of their Asian sales. HP is in very very close cooperation with the Taiwanese geniuses producing a superior product. They have torn part hundreds of iPads and know what makes them tick. They know how to make it all work better and the result is the HP TouchPad
The HP TouchPad is something like the iPad v. 6.0
Dennis, provide PROOF for ANY of your FUD.
Case and motherboard: 100% designed in the US. Apple even figured out the engineering for the case’s manufacture.
The SoC (CPU/GPU): Designed by Apple (yes, Apple has in-house chip design) and two British companies that Apple has investments in (ARM and Imagination Tech). Could be produced by any foundry, currently Samsung, will be TSMC.
The screen: Displays are sourced between LG and Samsung, so it’s likely neither of their proprietary design, but not likely totally Apple either.
The batteries: Standard lithium ion made by Simplo and Dynapack, but apparently in a custom Apple-ordered form factor to fill most of the iPad’s case.
Then there are the standard chips everybody buys stock, such as the WiFi, cellular and touch-screen controllers made by the likes of Broadcomm and TI.
There was an article recently about how even when Apple is buying from a supplier, Apple often invested in ramping up that company to be able to produce what Apple needs. Apple has even helped build entire factories to produce according to their needs. So just because it has a Chinese name on the company, don’t assume Apple didn’t have a hand in the engineering.
Now, how much design and engineering do you think Dell did in their Streak? Yeah, right. They ordered everything off the shelf.
Thanks for admitting that everybody else is just copying the iPad.
They know how to make it all work better and the result is the HP TouchPad
The Touchpad has an off-the-shelf Snapdragon, a bit higher in CPU clock, but every thing else slower. The GPU is inferior to the A5, and the A5's performance features such as dual-channel RAM and full out-of-order execution probably make up for the clock difference anyway without sacrificing battery life like extra clock does.
The Touchpad will be launching already behind the iPad, just before the next generation iPad comes out to further leave it in the dust. And I've read reviews about the OS, interesting, but not ready for prime-time yet.
must be the ipad share. I see the competition has FINALLY started to be competative.
we now have windows 7 padds (tablets?) out an about which run flash and have data card slots.
actually the ipad is a duplication of the tablet computers that were around for years.
it is just stripped down for the centralization control by apple.
You’re describing HP and Dell.
For example, on the aluminum, Apple designed all of that from scratch, there’s a nice video with Johnny Ive and all his CNC machines behind him that he used to design the cases. Apple bought the production CNC machines, had them installed at the Chinese factory, and had their people set it all up and insert Ive’s CNC programming. All the Chinese do is run the machines.
One thing for sure, when you buy an Apple you know you’re getting something different. With a lot of laptops out there, they are basically the same computer, just a slightly different case and a different label slapped on them. Of course this theme goes back to the beginning of laptops, with the Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100 and the Olivetti M-10 being basically the same computer in a different case.
Yup. All Apple did was copy all those 1-pound, multitouch tablets with an OS built from the ground up for tough navigation. Like the, um, help me out here.
There are a couple very big differences. First, it's designed for fingers instead of pens. Second, it uses a UI metaphor designed for touch instead of having a desktop UI metaphor that replaced keyboard and mouse with a pen. Even further, it uses multi-touch gestures. All others failed because they tried to use a desktop metaphor in a tablet. Notice how tablets after the iPad are trying to copy the iPad, not the failed "desktop shoved into a tablet" idea? HP and Microsoft had a Windows 7 tablet in the works before the iPad was released. They canceled the project immediately afterward. They realized the old tablet way was failed.
This isn't duplication. It's a revolution.
But you could try to say Apple is duplicating elements of the early tablets, like Apple's own Newton. BTW, did you know ARM is the successful company it is right now because of the Apple? Acorn Computers was designing chips for desktops and workstations, and of course eventually folded in the late 90s. But in the early 90s Apple and VLSI worked with Acorn to develop a mobile chip for the Newton. That effort was spun off into ARM, which produced the first ARM 610 chip for the Newton, and later the technology powering almost all modern cellphones and tablets.
Ive’s is not a programmer. One of his underlings might be programming the CNC machine or maybe the Chinese are from his design
You’re describing HP and Dell.>>>>>>
The Taiwanese are mostly responsible for those two companies laptops, desktops, touch pads, smartphones. Apple is the same. A re-brander and re-seller of Taiwan/China designed and manufactured computer products
Apple does a bit more in house than Dell and HP.....but not by much. As always the Taiwanese are calling the shots. Everyone else is behind them, eating their dust
Manny Pacquiao HP TouchPad with WebOS Commercial>>>>>>>
Like I said.... His endorsement will add billions in sales across Asia for HP. This will replace the iPad in Asia
No, that is the difference. Apple designs and specifies. Apple requires manufacturers to re-tool and even adopt new manufacturing technologies (sometimes Apple-invented) in order to manufacture Apple products. Apple even pays to have them modernize and expand their facilities in order to manufacture Apple products. The basic difference: Apple pushes the manufacturers while HP and Dell do with what the manufacturers can already provide. CNC aluminum is not the standard Chinese production package, so Dell and HP don't get it. They won't get Liquid Metal when that comes out in Apple parts either. Apple holds the rights to the technology, Apple is developing it, and Apple will be the one getting the Chinese up to speed to manufacture Apple products using it.
Apple is on top precisely because they're not playing the same follow-the-leader game as the other OEMs.
Ive has been creating CNC models for years. He literally goes through hundreds of iterations for any one product. Programming a CNC is not the same as programming a computer these days. We now have very powerful CAD/CAM packages. Even Jesse James, most definitely not a programmer, was designing and milling custom motorcycle rims with his own CNC machine.
And regardless, it's still Apple doing the design, the Chinese following instructions.
One of your main complaints against Apple is that they are supposedly all marketing and hype, and here you consider HP truly being all marketing and hype for an inferior tablet to be a positive thing.
You know, when you see things no one else can see, it doesn't necessarily make you a visionary. It might mean you're delusional.
Of course Dell and HP are marketing hype and distribution machines for what are essentially Taiwanese/ Chinese products. So is Apple.
Another function of all three companies is customer support for personal computers, touch pads and smart phones
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