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MS Police Officer Shoots Chained Dog Six Times
Wordpress.com ^ | March 23, 2011 | Yesbiscuit

Posted on 07/18/2011 6:49:02 PM PDT by Immerito

MS Police Officer Shoots Chained Dog Six Times March 23, 2011

In Gulfport, MS, police were called to a subdivision to investigate a possible break-in. During the course of the investigation, an officer went into the backyard of a neighbor’s home where she encountered the owner’s chained dog. The owner, who was just coming outside to get his dog, says the officer was standing approximately 30 feet from the end of the dog’s chain when she put half a dozen bullets in the dog.

Samuel Lovato rushed his beloved pet – named Melmo – to the vet but the injuries were too extensive and euthanasia was performed in order to relieve Melmo’s suffering. Mr. Lovato:

“I’ve had her for 11 years. Eleven years. She was a great dog, a good dog and she was just in her yard doing her job and just being a dog.”

Police will investigate themselves, as usual:

Police are looking into the incident, according to Lt. Craig Petersen with the Gulfport Police Department.

“First, we need to conduct our internal investigation,” Lt. Petersen said. “I feel really bad for the gentleman and the loss of his dog, but we’ll conduct the internal investigation.”

He also said that officers have to make life and death decisions in an instant, including assessing threats from animals.

“The officer has discretion in how to protect themselves in these situations, totally up to the officer based on the facts and circumstances of that particular case.”

Sound like they’ve already got the “Justified Killing” stamp all inked up? But wait, there’s more:

There is no timetable for when the investigation will be completed. The officer involved in the shooting remains on active duty.

So I guess it’s ‘Gulfport dog owners, hide your dogs’? Maybe while you’re at it, hide your kids too. I hate to think of a kid being in a yard with a dog where half a dozen bullets are flying.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doggieping; donutwatch; fascistcop; govtabuse; gulfport; leo; mississippi; ms; whomadethecollar
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1 posted on 07/18/2011 6:49:07 PM PDT by Immerito
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To: Immerito

hmm


2 posted on 07/18/2011 6:50:37 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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To: Immerito

Not much different than serial killers...love the joy of killing something, especially harmless pets.


3 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:35 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Immerito
Inspired by the Terminatrix?

Her kind has a thing for killing dogs, too.

4 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:41 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

Perhaps it was the first time she encountered a moving target.


5 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:56 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Immerito

Yay, a thread we can be like Daily Kos on!

“f the p!” “f the p!”

/S

But yeah there’s no doubt that pet killings by police need to be taken a lot more seriously than simple property damage. These are members of people’s family. There should be an external investigation in these cases.

But I’ll say that we only have 1 side of the story here.


6 posted on 07/18/2011 6:55:14 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Immerito

The dog owner should get justice.


7 posted on 07/18/2011 6:56:43 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Immerito

A chained dog... six times!

Such a macho powerful cop, that is!

Used to be you could go years and years without reading a story like this. These days there are too many to count.


8 posted on 07/18/2011 6:57:05 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: 353FMG

The copsuckers will be here soon to tell you ‘you don’t have the whole story’...or ‘dogs on chains are dangerous and can scuff your boots’....

Apparently dogs are just ‘freebies’...

They are a ‘standing army’....


9 posted on 07/18/2011 6:57:54 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: Immerito

In other news, NATO felt fully justified bombing a civilian airport.


10 posted on 07/18/2011 6:58:39 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Immerito

Maybe that triggerhappy cop would enjoy the rush of engaging a target that shot back?


11 posted on 07/18/2011 6:59:20 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

“But I’ll say that we only have 1 side of the story here.”

The dog was chained up. I don’t personally agree with the practice of chaining dogs, but since the dog did not break the chain, the officer was in no danger.

The officer should have gone about her duties and ignored the dog.

It seems that she went into “Target acquired. Mission: Terminate” mode.


12 posted on 07/18/2011 7:00:11 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito
He also said that officers have to make life and death decisions in an instant

And on other days, they just shoot dogs.

13 posted on 07/18/2011 7:00:44 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Immerito

They just followed their own internal policies and procedures. No fault found. The dog would have attacked if it was not chained up. The cop was taking no chance that the dog would unhook itself and attack. Nothing to see, move along.


14 posted on 07/18/2011 7:03:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Immerito

Yes. That’s the side of the story we have.


15 posted on 07/18/2011 7:03:58 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Immerito
Disgusting.

I'll say it again; The next time I hear of a cop being shot in the line of duty, I'm going to withhold my sympathies until I hear the details of the shooting. My default support for cops is OVER.
16 posted on 07/18/2011 7:04:56 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Immerito

Maybe someone could come up with a T-shirt that says “I don’t own a dog because the cops would shoot it if I did”.


17 posted on 07/18/2011 7:06:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
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18 posted on 07/18/2011 7:06:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

ping


19 posted on 07/18/2011 7:08:01 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Ronin
A chained dog... six times!

Such a macho powerful cop, that is!

Used to be you could go years and years without reading a story like this. These days there are too many to count.

ditto and its a matter of time before some law abiding citizen decides to get revenge for his family pet, I know I would if some thug with a badge walked into my yard and killed my pet

I grew up in the 70's with ( Adam12,CHIPS ect ) when the cops were the good guys.

now they are more like a banana republic gestapo

20 posted on 07/18/2011 7:11:15 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Joe 6-pack

How am I supposed to ping you if you keep beating me to the punch?

Sorry for the extraneous ping.


21 posted on 07/18/2011 7:11:15 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito
This happened last March.

More details here:

http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=14300415

22 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:59 PM PDT by TChad
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To: SJSAMPLE
My default support for cops is OVER.

I'm with you.

23 posted on 07/18/2011 7:13:03 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Immerito

Let me start by stating that in my business I worked with many police and sheriff’s departments in two states.

Before leaving the USSA, I saw a distinct pattern of cops
morphing from “good old boys/girls”, to jack booted thugs.

This episode is quite similar to the thug cop that blew away the poor deaf man.


24 posted on 07/18/2011 7:13:06 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

And how is a chained dog a danger to a person standing 30 feet away? Particularly an armed person?

We’re not talking about a dog in midair, jaws about to close on the throat of an officer. We’re talking about a dog that had no ability to retreat or avoid the officer, and an officer that had the ability to avoid and ignore the dog.


25 posted on 07/18/2011 7:13:31 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

LOL...If you want to run with the big dogs you gotta keep up :-)


26 posted on 07/18/2011 7:15:27 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Immerito

Dogtapper


27 posted on 07/18/2011 7:16:22 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT)
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To: Immerito

What can you really say about this, neighbors yard, chained, 5 shots and in front of the owner. This is just plain wrong, but in a world where humans butcher each other for much less cause, it is not surprising. I don’t care what the officer’s reasoning was it shouldn’t of happened.


28 posted on 07/18/2011 7:16:47 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: Farmer Dean

I’m with ya. Be hard not to do something if they came in MY YARD and shot my dog. No, I wouldn’t, but only out of extreme self control.


29 posted on 07/18/2011 7:17:29 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He also said that officers have to make life and death decisions in an instant <<

I was thinking...Jelly or Glazed?.../s


30 posted on 07/18/2011 7:19:16 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Immerito

So a dog runs and jumps on you and attacks you while you are picnicking outdoors. You pick up a steak knife and stab it to death. Then you find out it was a police Dog.

Murder one.

How is that for hypocritical.

If they can kill yours then you should be able kill theirs when you feel threatened.


31 posted on 07/18/2011 7:22:28 PM PDT by Revel
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To: All

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/assignment_7&id=8218092


32 posted on 07/18/2011 7:25:45 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Ronin

Agreed. This nonsense needs to stop. Now.


33 posted on 07/18/2011 7:28:41 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: M-cubed

Time all cities have independent citizen review boards to judge these out of control gestapo types. It is a foregone conclusion that the pigs have each other’s backs, regardless of how egregious the offense. We see this every day. I’m with the poster earlier. I don’t (and haven’t in years) felt the cop was always in the right. My family had a donut shop in the 60’s/70’s. This “cop attitude” is nothing new. We got to know a lot of very arrogant bullies. One wanted some kid to run so he could shoot him! This was in Amarillo in the mid 60’s.


34 posted on 07/18/2011 7:31:13 PM PDT by TStro
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To: Immerito
At the very minimum, this police officer should lose her job. I'd hope the owner files a civil suit.

If the story turns out to be true in that the dog was chained and 30 feet away, then this woman does not have the judgment to be a police officer. If true I'd hate to see what this woman might do in another situation which requires good judgment.

BTW, I do question the accuracy of anyone who would chain a dog. To me this is animal cruelty in the great majority of situations. I'll wait for the investigation and the facts to pass judgment.
35 posted on 07/18/2011 7:31:21 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: SkyDancer

“They just followed their own internal policies and procedures.”

I have my internal policies on those who would harm my family, too.

You know, what happens eventually in a really “bad neighborhood” is that the residents shoot first at the police because they figure that they themselves are dead already.


36 posted on 07/18/2011 7:38:02 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: truthguy

Agreed. Chaining is cruel and many states have laws against endless chaining of a dog. They are social animals. Having said that, a chained dog is no threat to anyone. The dog was not loose. These stories are beginning to sound as if any dog on the premises is in danger (inside or outside the house) if the cops come calling. Needs to stop and citizens need to demand a better protocol.


37 posted on 07/18/2011 7:41:05 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: ClearCase_guy
And on other days, they just shoot dogs.

Bravo. That adrenaline rush is just too much for them at times apparently and dogs come in handy for releasing some machismo.

38 posted on 07/18/2011 7:43:59 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: JLLH

“The dog was not loose. These stories are beginning to sound as if any dog on the premises is in danger (inside or outside the house) if the cops come calling. Needs to stop and citizens need to demand a better protocol.”

If this doesn’t get under control, I think a lot of people are going to start following the “G. Gordon Liddy” protocol.


39 posted on 07/18/2011 7:45:54 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

I plead ignorance. What is the “G. GordonLiddy” protocol?


40 posted on 07/18/2011 7:49:27 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

“f the p!” “f the p!”

...and they say that there is no common ground between Liberals and Conservatives.


41 posted on 07/18/2011 7:49:37 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: JLLH

“I plead ignorance. What is the “G. GordonLiddy” protocol?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy

See “Controversial Statements”.


42 posted on 07/18/2011 7:51:05 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Immerito

IMO, the shooting of pets is a psyops tactic designed to terrorize the owners. Terror inspires obedience...At least in the short term.


43 posted on 07/18/2011 7:55:10 PM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Thanks for the link. Understood.


44 posted on 07/18/2011 7:55:42 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Immerito
The story says the dog was on a chain in the neighbor's yard, so it wasn't on the property where the cops were sniffing around.

I think the cops lose this one in court ~ and the officer gets a stiff counseling from a Senior Lt. on the force ~ to improve her aim.

45 posted on 07/18/2011 7:59:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Charlespg
I blame the war on drugs, frankly.

Up until the mid 70s, cops in most places were exactly what they were supposed to be. Citizens who wore uniforms when working, who did their jobs quietly and professionally, and who viewed every action with their fellow citizens as exercises in rights, responsibilities and civilized courtesies.

The war on drugs changed the rules. I am not sure what would have happened if we had gone the other direction (legalization) instead of increased criminalization, but it's obvious that the WOD didn't work. Drugs are still out there, and there is still huge amounts of money to be made selling them.

But look at what the WOD did do. The huge amounts of money to be made in the industry attracted the worst and most dangerous kinds of criminals. The money they were making made it possible for the crooks to buy and field the most powerful weapons. Cops were forced to match their viciousness and firepower with new weapons and tactics -- and SWAT was born. That was bad enough, but the changes kept on coming. Search warrants? Fourth Amendment?

"Get real!", the cops said. "We're dealing with bad dudes here! We have to approach every warrant and every arrest like combat because we don't know who is going to be armed with AKs and cop-killer bullets!"

It didn't happen all at once, but somewhere between 1970 and 1985, cops were no longer the good guys protecting other good guys from bad guys. They became "THE MAN". They told you what to do and you did it. Policing became less about protecting the public and more about making good busts.

But what really screwed things up was the concept of "asset forfeiture". Suddenly, any bust could be a city hall bonanza! Someone in a car gets caught with a baggie full of oregano? Confiscate the car, auction it, and there's the payroll for that day. And then it really got bad. Houses, boats, even real estate.

The rules on what can be seized vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but there can be no doubt in anyone's mind that the very concept is unconstitutional in the face of it.

Now, reading all that, someone is bound to be wondering whathe WOD and asset forfeiture have to do with cops shooting dogs. To me, however, the answer is simple.

Contempt!

I believe that the hyper-aggressiveness police behavior that has resulted from the incremental but substantial changes in law enforcement philosophy caused by the WOD, has fundamentally altered the mindset of most police departments, and through them, the minds of the officers themselves.

Citizens are no longer worthy of their respect. They are either timid little mice who cause them nothing but irritation with their nagging complaints, or they are dangerous crooks that need to be taken down. They have contempt is for the first, hatred is for the second, but what is completely missing is any residual affection for -- or sense of bearing responsibility to -- members of the public.

Why do they shoot dogs? Because they can! They know that in any "he says, she says" their word is going to be taken over the dog's owner. An owner who they resent anyhow. Besides, who knows? Even if the dog is on a chain, he might get loose! And that's where things stand right now.

Is there a solution? I really don't know. The mindsets have crystallized, attitudes have hardened, careers have been made. Even if all drugs were legalized and the prices fell to $50 a ton for cocaine, the cops would fight to the death to keep their Nomex uniforms and MP-5s.

There's no way back to Maybury RFD.

46 posted on 07/18/2011 8:02:25 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

We could have 2 sides to the story, but it appears that the police weren’t done coming up with their side of the story yet, which is always the case.

Why does it always take the police a week to determine why they fired shots?


47 posted on 07/18/2011 8:05:24 PM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
But I’ll say that we only have 1 side of the story here.

Yeah, but unfortunately the dog didn't live to tell his side.

48 posted on 07/18/2011 8:08:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("America will cease to be great when America ceases to be good." -- Welcome to deToqueville.)
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To: Immerito
Google Autocomplete gives me the following as soon as I type the words Cop shoots...

cop shoots himself in school
cop shoots himself
cop shoots dog
cop shoots woodcarver
cop shoots self in foot
cop shoots concrete alligator
cop shoots squirrel

... and after that the stories begin to repeat themselves.

concrete alligator?
49 posted on 07/18/2011 8:09:10 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Maurice Tift

Pretty soon, a SWAT team will take out a whole front yard full of garden gnomes.


50 posted on 07/18/2011 8:10:42 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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