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Humans 'Predisposed' to Believe in Gods and Afterlife (3-year int'l research project concludes)
Science Daily ^ | 07/14/2011

Posted on 07/19/2011 9:31:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/19/2011 9:31:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“He has also set eternity in their heart...” (Ecclesiastes 3:11)


2 posted on 07/19/2011 9:37:21 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: SeekAndFind

All that time and money to come up with that conclusion...?


3 posted on 07/19/2011 9:43:00 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To believe that all the wonderous things that our senses reveal to us created themselves, seems totally irrational.

And then there are our amazing senses themselves.....

4 posted on 07/19/2011 9:43:57 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Yes Palin CAN defeat the Obamanable snowman!)
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To: SeekAndFind
They directed an international body of researchers conducting studies in 20 different countries that represented both traditionally religious and atheist societies

What are the atheist societies they studied?
5 posted on 07/19/2011 9:44:37 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe it takes a scientific project to get some of our misguided “brights” to think about the eternal order of things.


6 posted on 07/19/2011 9:44:53 AM PDT by Route797
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Probably Communist societies, where atheism is enforced by law.

No society, absent a direct law AGAINST religion, has ever been atheistic.

7 posted on 07/19/2011 9:46:06 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
In the beginning, "God" was what people could see...The sun, the moon, living things...etc.

The understanding that these could not exist on their own leads to God...It's called "Faith"...as per Kant's "A Critique of Pure Reason".

Everyone of us is amazed at the universe around us. It will always be so.

8 posted on 07/19/2011 9:48:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Even in Communist societies, it is virtually impossible to completely eliminate the influence of religion, especially in traditionally Christian countries.

It would be interesting if a bunch of atheists got together in some barren area and started a purely atheistic society from scratch to see what they came up with after a few generations. My guess is that it wouldn’t be pretty, or we’d have more examples in history.

Unfortunately, all we have as examples are those using the carcass of a forcefully gutted Christian society as a basis for atheistic societies to temporarily take over.


9 posted on 07/19/2011 9:52:03 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Posted earler:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2750533/posts


10 posted on 07/19/2011 9:55:05 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Guyin4Os

Sames verse came to my mind!


11 posted on 07/19/2011 9:58:20 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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RE: Even in Communist societies, it is virtually impossible to completely eliminate the influence of religion, especially in traditionally Christian countries.

It has been observed that China has one of the fastest growing Christian population in the WORLD!

See here :

In Communist China, Protestant Christianity Becomes Fastest Growing Religion

http://www.urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/2011/07/in-communist-china-protestant-christianity-becomes-fastest-growing-religion.html


12 posted on 07/19/2011 10:01:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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Augustine, Confessions: Thou hast made us for thyself and our hearts are restless until the rest in Thee.


13 posted on 07/19/2011 10:09:43 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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“predisposed”....why, to what end? and predisposed by Who? And what is the evolutionary explanation for this??? hmmm?


14 posted on 07/19/2011 10:15:57 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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Christian or Buddhist or Tribal religious societies have fallen to Communism before, and yes, even with it being outlawed - many believe(d) in secret and have(had) deep cultural influences from the religion their society once had.

But I do find it interesting that EVERY society, absent a law against it, was largely religious. And, as you pointed out, even WITH a law against religion - people still believe in secret and are deeply influenced by their faith or the cultural history of their faith.

15 posted on 07/19/2011 10:21:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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what is the evolutionary explanation for this?

Most human evolution is driven by tribal warfare and religion provides a winning advantage. The first tribe that discovered religion was so successful they went on to populate the world and kill off the nonreligious humanoids such as the Neanderthals. It's why the only humans alive today are all the same species. Tribal warfare is an unnaturally high speed version of evolution and is why we evolved so fast.

16 posted on 07/19/2011 10:39:13 AM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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“predisposed”....why, to what end? and predisposed by Who? And what is the evolutionary explanation for this??? hmmm?

Predisposed by that series of random mutations known as evolution.

The ability to recognize patterns (not just visual patterns, mind you, but patterns in the wider sense of the word - i.e., when making observations of natural phenomena) correlates closely with the power of abstract reasoning - to draw conclusions (deductive reasoning) and to formulate generalized rules (inductive reasoning).

This tendency (to look for patterns) represents a Darwinistic Advantage, and is so strong that humans will frequently see patterns even when there aren't actually any there. I.e., we are inclined to impose patterns on what is often actually a collection of random events, or to formulate invalid rules or to draw false conclusions.

This is the price we pay for this otherwise useful tendency. (Just as many other advantageous traits likewise carry with them certain unavoidable disadvantages.) However, for our ecological niche, this cluster of traits (inborn curiosity about our natural environment; the tendency to try to make observations and formulate generalizations, etc.) has, on the whole, proven to be more beneficial than detrimental.

However, such a trait can, at times (like when the environmental shifts) become distinctly disadvantageous.

The belief in magic and in supernatural beings - the (errant) belief that we can placate evil spirits or wrathful gods and/or induce them to do our bidding (bring rain, heal cancer, supply the winning lottery numbers, etc.) blinds the believer to an extent, and warps his sense of reality, but may provide him with a beneficial (if illusory) feeling of power over his own destiny.

Belief in "invisible friends" may have been a benign or even helpful thing in the olden days. It provided "peace of mind" and helped people accept the unavoidable at a time when primitive technology was unable to provide better solutions. But it has outlived its usefulness.

An additional explanation is that, at some point in his intellectual development, Man was suddenly able to conceive of his own mortality - to "counteract" the potentially adverse consequences of that (nihilism), belief in an afterlife was invented.

Regards,

17 posted on 07/19/2011 10:43:29 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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What are the atheist societies they studied?

Funny thing I notice about all the atheists that I know (for instance - one of my brothers) - rather than simply dismiss the idea of (a) God, they all seem to be angry - hostile even - towards the very idea of God.

Methinks "thou doth protesteth too much..."

18 posted on 07/19/2011 10:56:41 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Reeses

Chuckles - sounds like an opinion...


19 posted on 07/19/2011 10:59:31 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all in Romans 1.


20 posted on 07/19/2011 11:07:11 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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