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“Our perspective on this issue will change if you begin to see these 'illegals' for who they really are – mothers and fathers, sons and daughters – not much different from yourselves.” -- Archbishop Gomez

He emphasized that immigration “is not a problem but an opportunity.”

Note: The quotes surrounding the term illegals are in the article source.

1 posted on 08/04/2011 9:54:18 PM PDT by re_nortex
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Hearing this makes me have hot flashes for ICE.


2 posted on 08/04/2011 9:56:10 PM PDT by magna carta
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Well, that's true, but Jesus was content to render unto Caesar that which was Caesar’s; U.S. law is what governs immigration.
3 posted on 08/04/2011 9:57:05 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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If the millions of mexican illegal aliens would have actually stayed in Mexico, and developed careers and jobs there, and hadn’t left their country, perhaps the crime element wouldn’t be running rampant and these tens of millions of mexicans could clean up their own country and make it a better place for themselves and their families ot live and work.

You know, if they really cared about their families and their country, they wouldn’t have left it and left a vacuum that got filled by banditos. You get 20 million mexicans coming home to clean house by overwhelming the crime elements in their country, it would be a massive step forward for Mexico, security wise and economically.


4 posted on 08/04/2011 9:58:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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“most illegal immigrants are forced to leave their homeland in order to provide a better life for their families.”

Coming here illegally because your country sucks is not a valid reason for doing so!


5 posted on 08/04/2011 9:59:39 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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“Our perspective on this issue will change if you begin to see these 'illegals' for who they really are ...

Try: trespassers, liars, and thieves.

And you Archbishop Gomez: encouraging people to live a life of sin is not the duty of a man who claims to preach the Gospel of Truth.

If lives were in danger - it would be different.
This is a matter of people wanting more 'stuff'.
Its certainly OK to want 'stuff' - but not at the expense of living a life of sin by lying and stealing (as one does when they falsely represent themselves as being legal residents of a Nation) to achieve it.

6 posted on 08/04/2011 10:01:24 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Ping!


8 posted on 08/04/2011 10:04:45 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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Pssst. The whole world relies on white people. Keep it secret.


9 posted on 08/04/2011 10:05:17 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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They have chosen to be criminals first. They did not come to this country to assimilate.


12 posted on 08/04/2011 10:15:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Illegal immigrants are first 'mothers and fathers, sons and daughters,' says Archbishop Gomez

Yeah, I'll give them "mothers and fathers, sons and daughters" first, but they're criminal alien invaders second. Get 'em the he!! out of here, I'm sick of their criminality and robbery of our treasury. The United States of America has an immigration policy, they are welcome to use it. muck ..xico

13 posted on 08/04/2011 10:17:55 PM PDT by theymakemesick
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“Archbishop Jose H. Gomez of Los Angeles said on Aug. 3 that most illegal immigrants are forced to leave their homeland in order to provide a better life for their families.” Here, let me translate: Their home county is so screwed up because of the communist and/or socialist elites that they come here to find freedom only to find out that this country is headed down the same road as their home country.


14 posted on 08/04/2011 10:19:17 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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People like Gomez are giving the Catholic Church a very, very bad name.


15 posted on 08/04/2011 10:23:16 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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Most illegal immigrants are here because the elites in their own Socialist countries treats their underclass like SH*T and feels that its better to outsource to the USA their own education and welfare programs.


17 posted on 08/04/2011 10:25:28 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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Americans care about their kids, too. That’s why they don’t want their kids’ schools to be dangerous, overcrowded and ineffective. They don’t want their kids to be beaten up by illegal gang members, or to have to wait 18 hours in the emergency room, (which happened to a friend of mine recently,) or not even be able to FIND an emergency room because illegals have shut them down. Americans don’t want their kids to get diseases that were formerly eradicated in this country...or to be hit by an unlicensed, uninsured, and/or drunk illegal driver...or to be unable to get a job because they don’t speak Spanish...and on and on. So the Archbishop can spare us his phony sob story about criminal invader parents. In fact, he can stuff it.


18 posted on 08/04/2011 10:26:09 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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We are all for people having better lives, but legally.

The Archbishop should be addressing the human rights violations in Mexico that contribute to them coming here. Americans are mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers also, and now there are many Americans having trouble putting food on the table and paying their bills while the illegals have the luxury of paying no taxes, using wic and foodstamps, and working for cash which is promptly sent to Mexico to prop up their country. they are rude, arrogant and refuse to assimilate. I have even been told that our country sucks by an angry illegal who didn’t have a dl or ID to purchase alcohol.

I feel sorry for them, but they are breaking the law.


19 posted on 08/04/2011 10:31:13 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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One other thing. WE have got to stop the anchor baby thing.


20 posted on 08/04/2011 10:31:42 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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If I were hungry and needy and robbed the Catholic Church I would still be a criminal even though I would also still be a father, son and whatever but I wouldn’t be an illegal and a criminal for that.


21 posted on 08/04/2011 10:36:34 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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The Archbishop is correct. They are mothers, fathers, etc. and not at all different from ourselves, other than the fact that they have ENTERED THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.

So, it is he who is missing the point.


24 posted on 08/04/2011 10:44:16 PM PDT by jocon307
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Baby Jesus, Mary and Joseph had to pass the Roman border guards LEGALLY to get into Egypt legally. [One component of Jewish troops were settled at the Elephantine as border guards.] The Holy Family were fleeing for their lives because Herod wanted Jesus dead.
Imitate Jesus.
Don`t be a sneaking illegal border crosser.
Nobody forces these illegals to do anything. No one is trying to kill them?
It is called FREE WILL which is Catholic doctrine and this archbishop knows he is a lying wolf in shepherd`s clothing.
For the same measure, if any unemployed American tries to sneak into Mexico illegally to work in the maquiladoras, border factories, there, he would be arrested and shut in prison until someone paid tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to get him back half as good as he was before.
Archbishop, your red Mexican shoe doesn`t fit your yellow American foot and your ``truth`` limps.


25 posted on 08/04/2011 10:49:34 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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Archbishop Jose H. Gomez, another crime enabler like the dirtbag he replaced. We need a RICO action with Gomez as the target.


26 posted on 08/04/2011 10:52:41 PM PDT by Pelham (Obama, the vanguard of the proletariat since 2008)
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OK Archbishop, so you would then support millions of illegals from Bangladesh and Nigeria and Somalia too?

Oh - they’re not Catholics, so they don’t count.

The Archbishop, like a lot of Republican elites, try to smoke us with this “hispanic illegals have great fanily values and are conservative, blah, blah.”

Truth be known, too many of those illegals, even with families back home, have mistresses here bearing American children, are alcolol-dependent, and with the younger set are involved in gangs like MS-13. Not exactly Ward Cleaver or choir boys. And not so good on their attendance at Sunday Mass, Archbishop. THey stigmatize hispanics who are here legally and are proud Americans, but must now endure the stain of these illegals.


27 posted on 08/04/2011 11:56:48 PM PDT by oldbill
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