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Has anyone heard anything about chemist working on ammunition with a 5 month shelf life(vanity)
8/21/11 | vanity

Posted on 08/21/2011 3:13:27 PM PDT by BBell

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To: BBell

Reads like some liberidiot dipped his beak too heavily in the community jar before posting his fanatasies.

IOW, can’t be done ! >PS


61 posted on 08/21/2011 6:12:19 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Buffalo Head

What I’m saying is there was something about there was going to be limited bullet purchases such as this story: http://www.times-gazette.com/news/article/4587240
So it’s out there.


62 posted on 08/21/2011 6:35:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Buffalo Head

Well the water from Katrina was nasty. I had a few thousand rounds flooded so I had nothing to lose. The bullets were already starting to rust. I actually put the bullets in a wheel barrel and washed them twice with fresh water. Liquid wrench cost a 1.50 a can at dollar general so it was the cheapest stuff I could find. I coated the bullets with the liquid wrench and then mixed them up well for the sole purpose of preventing any more corrosion.


63 posted on 08/21/2011 7:24:24 PM PDT by BBell
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To: count-your-change

Me? Oh, no. I would never do such a thing.

I did take my kids on a canoe trip down the C&O canal, once, right in DC - and showed them some things of interest. Potassium nitrate deposits on the rocks, some funny yellow powder leaching out of the soil, and some bits of charcoal. I pointed out that these things may be of interest. All the while singing, black-white-yellow six one-two oh-eight ... dunno why, some little ditty that stuck in my head.

Must have been a holdover from my mountain heritage.

Who knows - I have these hillbilly flashbacks. Some days, I even think my niece married my nephew, but then I remember that they got divorced. Thank goodness, they are still brother and sister.


64 posted on 08/21/2011 7:27:50 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: Buffalo Head

I forgot to mention that I had some Russian ammo flood too but it did not fare so well. The majority of them fired but more than a few were dudes. I guess the ChiCom crap was meant to take alot of abuse. Of the thousands of 22 rounds I had only one of 22 that I tried fired. And the one that did fire did not even have enough power to cycle the bolt. I threw them all away.


65 posted on 08/21/2011 7:29:53 PM PDT by BBell
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To: count-your-change

Start with the black.
Grind it fine.
Not dust, powder.
Grind it fine.
six on-two oh-eight.

Next with the white.
Grind it fine.
Not dust, powder.
Grind it fine.
six on-two oh-eight.

Now the yellow.
Grind it fine.
Not dust, powder.
Grind it fine.
six on-two oh-eight.

Mix in water
Let dry in the sun
Grind it fine.
Not dust, powder.
Grind it fine.

(Do taht last bit outside the cabin, away from the fire)
six on-two oh-eight.


66 posted on 08/21/2011 7:50:27 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: count-your-change

Sigh, if I could type - or edit - I might have more surviving friends.

Try this version:

Start with the black.
Grind it fine.
Not powder, dust.
Grind it fine.
Six one-two oh-eight by weight.

Next with the white.
Grind it fine.
Not powder, dust.
Grind it fine.
Six one-two oh-eight by weight.

Now the yellow.
Grind it fine.
Not powder, dust.
Grind it fine.
Six one-two oh-eight by weight.

Mix in water
Let dry in the sun
Grind it fine.
Not dust, powder.
Grind it fine.
Six one-two oh-eight by weight.

(Do that last bit outside the cabin, away from the fire)

Six one-two oh-eight by weight.


67 posted on 08/21/2011 8:16:34 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: patton
My mix was 75-80 parts saltpeter, 15 parts charcoal, 5 parts flowers of sulfur. Each ground fine and sifted before mixing with water into a stiff paste and dried.

I was carefully warned away from trying to make gun cotton and to this day I have my sight and fingers intact.

68 posted on 08/21/2011 9:05:49 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Whaaa? I think your typos are worse than mine - 77 parts SP to 15 Charcoal?

That would burn underwater - or in outer space - but would not produce a fart.

Saltpeter is the oxidizer, charcoal the fuel - or cotton, or sugar...

Though I agree with you about gun cotton. That never worked out in pool halls.


69 posted on 08/21/2011 9:15:45 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: count-your-change

6 charcoal, 1.2 Saltpeter, 0.8 sulfer

Six one-two oh-eight by weight.


70 posted on 08/21/2011 9:20:08 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: patton

Here’s couple of mixes found online:

Usually black powder is a mixture of saltpeter, sulfur and charcoal. Also a black powder without any sulfur yields good results and produces even less smoke. (For how these ingredients are made, see the previous chapters).
A reasonable recipe is a mix of:

100 parts of saltpeter,
18 parts of char coal, and (Parts given by weight)
16 parts of sulfur

100 parts of saltpeter and
24 parts of char coal.


71 posted on 08/21/2011 9:24:36 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: patton

Looking at your mix I would think it:

61 saltpeter, 20 charcoal, 8 sulfur


72 posted on 08/21/2011 9:32:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Perhaps you have it correct.


73 posted on 08/21/2011 9:39:29 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: RitchieAprile
Reminds me the days of mainframe And Mini computers. The boss ordered an upgrade for faster printer speed. The C.E. came out, opened the back panel, flipped a switch. Presto! FASTER printer!

We all had a good laugh.

74 posted on 08/21/2011 10:00:04 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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