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To: dpseeker
My original point (just trying to keep you on track, here) is that both the Birther issues and campaigning against BO can be pursued simultaneously.

Your point is a supposition, not a fact, at least in the absence of any verifiable data.

Theoretically, one can vigorously pursue both a career as as a leader of the Flat Earth Society, and as a successful participant in electoral politics. In the real world, being a leader of the Flat Earth Society, precludes a successful career in electoral politics. Period. I'm not expressing approval, or disapproval, of that fact, just stating a fact.

In the real world, being a Birther, that is, being a paranoid, conspiraciest, whose world view is mostly, if not entirely, delusional, precludes a successful career in electoral politics. Period.

You disagree? Fine. Prove me wrong. Generate some empirical evidence. Win some elections campaigning on Birtherism. Until then, I'll continue to denounce you as a bunch political Walter Mittys, fantasizing about doing great things, while in fact doing nothing.

On re-reading this post, I'm not sure it is fair. To Walter Mitty. He wasn't harming the war effort. Birthers are BO's greatest allies.

150 posted on 09/03/2011 7:56:43 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

I said: My original point (just trying to keep you on track, here) is that both the Birther issues and campaigning against BO can be pursued simultaneously.

Pilsner said: Your point is a supposition, not a fact, at least in the absence of any verifiable data.

Mr. Pilsner, it is a simple fact — a truth of God and Nature, if you will — that you, I or anybody could work on a campaign and still support the Birther movement. They are not mutually exclusive. And that is a fact, sir, to anyone with a brain. Not that you don’t have a brain, rather I think the problem is that you are an Obot and are deathly afraid of the Birther movement.

You have nothing to argue with, Mr. Pilsner. The facts are on our side. Your only weapons are tired insults and vacuous statements.

It is the Birther movement, after all, that forced Mr. Obama to release a forged document as his birth certificate ... you know, the one that he spent three years and a couple million dollars fighting lawsuits to keep it hidden because it was none of our business. The very one that he is now fighting to prevent anyone from seeing the original even though he says the PDF file was a true document. Does any of that strike you as a bit odd, Mr. Pilsner?

More than half of the people in this country, sir, have doubts about Mr. Obama’s birth place, and the circumstances of his birth. The Birther movement is not a fringe movement. If anyone is on the fringe, it is the anti-Birthers. You are the ones who are losing this debate, Mr. Pilsner; and a big reason why is that you’ve got nothing to argue with but insults. People don’t really like that, do they, Mr. Pilsner?

We are winning the argument, Mr. Pilsner. Today, even David Letterman (of all people) jokes about Mr. Obama’s forged birth certificate. David Letterman! Praise God I have lived to see this day.

I do believe you are an Obot, Mr. Pilsner, and you are terribly afraid that your guy is going to be exposed. Consider this, Mr. Pilsner: Mr. Obama could make the Birther movement (you know, more than half the nation), that Obama could make the Birther movement go away in about a day — the time it would take for him to release his records. Yet he doesn’t. He certainly makes it look as though he has something to hide.

Continue with your insults, sir. Portray us as witless souls living in a pointless dream world, devoid of purpose and sucking our thumbs. Your ad hominem arguments are working against you. Go ask David Letterman.

And if Sarah runs, I will be doing all I can to help her campaign, and I will remain an avid Birther in total defiance of your admonition to the contrary.


151 posted on 09/03/2011 9:49:39 PM PDT by dpseeker ( "Fools deride, philosophers investigate." --J. E. Richardson)
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