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As cold fusion events demonstrate, modern science is ruled by conformity
Medicine Science ^
| August 29, 2011
| Posted by aksell
Posted on 09/12/2011 9:50:15 PM PDT by Kevmo
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posted on
09/12/2011 9:50:23 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
To: dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...
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posted on
09/12/2011 9:51:17 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: Kevmo
The term “cold fusion” is the restraint.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:05:54 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: Kevmo
Ignorant gibberish. Stop wasting time and space.
To: Kevmo
Ive often wondered why it is that conventionally trained medical doctors are so reluctant to venture outside the limited thinking of conventional medicine. Why are they hesitant to adopt new ideas and new theoretical models for the underlying causes of human health or disease? I think I have at least a partial answer to this question: Doctors only succeed in medical school or in acquiring publication of their studies when they conform with the views and beliefs of their peers. In other words, becoming a successfuldoctorin todays political-medical environment requires being a conformist. People who are independent thinkers are filtered out of the process early on .
This is a caricature of medical science and science in general. There are always new ideas, models, and theories being proposed and adopted. The cynicism of the above quote is a means of saying, "Hey, you won't listen to what I believe to be true because you want to hold on to what you believe to be true. Therefore, what you claim to be true, unlike what I claim to be true, is only rationalized self-interest, and the fact that you oppose me means that I'm the truly independent thinker and more likely to be right." In spite of examples, even in science, of people behaving like people, it's still a fairly juvenile argument to make.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:08:15 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Kevmo
Everything that is in this article can be said about the “settled” science of global warming as well.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:12:23 PM PDT
by
Ronin
(Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
To: Ronin
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:15:50 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: hinckley buzzard
You paint a broad statement. No argument. Your mindset would have us all pulling plows right now so just back off please. ;)
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:26:47 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: hinckley buzzard
Ignorant gibberish. Not to mention repetitive. Kevmo adds to his record every time he regurgitates this stuff from a blog.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:37:49 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: aruanan
One could write a history of science in reverse by assembling the solemn pronouncements of highest authority about what could not be done and could never happen.
Robert A. Heinlein
(I always liked that quote)
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:39:41 PM PDT
by
Ronin
(Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
Take Ohm for example. When he formulated Ohm’s law he was laughed at. He was fired from his teaching job because hadn’t based his theory on science. He was refused employment at the University because he had based his theory on too much science. He was ignored for 20 years until someone else discovered the same law. That’s how the scientific community operates.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:54:02 PM PDT
by
webboy45
To: Moonman62
Much of it is idiotic. Most ideas are. Neither of you argue the physical improbability so I assume you are a ‘fly by’ ass with nothing but derogatory lies.
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posted on
09/12/2011 10:57:17 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: Moonman62
I think this is BS. But worthy bs.
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posted on
09/12/2011 11:06:59 PM PDT
by
allmost
To: aruanan; hinckley buzzard
“This is a caricature of medical science and science in general.”
Couldn’t agree more... If his thesis was correct we’d still be practicing alchemy and bleeding people.
With regard to medicine there’s thousands of people practicing and millions using “alternative medicine” from acupuncture to homeopathy to herbal treatments to shamanism to prayer to meditation and so on.
The reason these techniques are not as widely accepted as “mainstream” medicine is because they don’t work - at least for the vast majority of people. Were any to prove consistently effective, believe me, they would quickly gain widespread acceptance and use.
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posted on
09/12/2011 11:10:37 PM PDT
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aquila48
To: aquila48
You don’t think meditation works in a beneficial way.
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posted on
09/13/2011 12:07:10 AM PDT
by
allmost
To: hinckley buzzard
It ends up being a tout for quackery. Homeopathic medicine and the so-called “memory” of diluted water. Diluted with what? Still more water, it seems water can pass on its memory.
Purdue University did indeed run a “cold fusion” experiment but it was actually pretty hot as in millions of degrees hot.
The researchers used acoustic waves to cause cavitation in acetone and when the small bubbles collapsed atoms of deuterium fused. Useful and interesting but so what?
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posted on
09/13/2011 12:33:07 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: allmost
“You dont think meditation works in a beneficial way.”
Actually I use it myself - but for a lot of people it doesn’t seem to do much for them.
The point of the article was that mainstream medicine as a whole was somehow conspiring to keep “alternative” practices available. I simply don’t find that to be true. In fact in the case of meditation, many doctors recommend it for reducing stress.
Also quite a few doctors, like Dr Weill, have become quite famous in pursuing and advocating a “fusion” type of medicine that incorporates the best of both mainstream and “alternative” medicine.
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posted on
09/13/2011 12:55:55 AM PDT
by
aquila48
To: aquila48
You're weird. I like you.
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posted on
09/13/2011 1:01:19 AM PDT
by
allmost
To: allmost; aquila48
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posted on
09/13/2011 3:11:59 AM PDT
by
Candor7
(Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
To: hinckley buzzard
"Ignorant gibberish. Stop wasting time and space." Well, I don't know about the medical part, but the suppression of cold fusion was (and is) very real. But the general tendency to enforced conformity is certainly there...there are many other examples.
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