Posted on 09/13/2011 12:40:01 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
Any teeth to this story?
Notice, not one word of Illegal Aliens(or the euphemism Undocumented Workers) or their children infesting the schools of Georgia.
This is the real problem.
This is what is dragging down the reading, english, history, and math scores.
As with many of the ills besetting our culture today, Illegal Immigration is a primary factor in this problem.
Actually, some qualifiers are due for this story which will never be told. The City of Atlanta, most of Fulton County, Dekalb County and nearly every other ‘urban’ minority-controlled school districts spend a minimum DOUBLE per student more then outlying districts which get better scores. Last time I read what Atlanta PS spends per/student, it was nearly 3 times the metro counties.
It isn’t illiteracy, it is peer-pressure, uncontrolled minority government, negligence and laxity amongst parent(s) and so on/ Atlanta government spends more time trying to figure out how to dole out the concessions at the airport than it does on education or healthcare (Grady Hospital, for example). ...call it racist, but it’s true.
In fairness, I would say it is more likely weak teachers with a BAD reading curriculum who can’t be bothered to teach poor minority kids who can’t be bothered with or motivated by education or by their ‘family.’
It is a combination of social class, family status/structure, culture, curriculum and teaching efficacy.
Having done charity construction work in some of Georgia’s rural/poor areas, and seen the environment up close, it’s no wonder they can’t read.
Not sure there are enough illegal aliens (who aren’t always bad students) in Ga to generate a 1/3rd stat.
It isn’t as easy as that. All children in government schools, including the “good” suburban schools, are being irreparably damaged academically by the bogus theories of pedagogy flowing out of schools of education.
Single-payer education works no better than single-payer medicine.
Readers are leaders! You cant read, you won’t lead.
“Any teeth to this story?”
Sorry, I don’t know what that means. AJC’s story or mine?
As for mine, the whole point is to agitate the people of Georgia, make them discuss this story, and force the governor to aim higher than he is said to be aiming.
These are my observations:
— Our Spanish speaking kids are very smart and all of the speak English very well ( having attended Head Start). It takes tremendous planing for a Mexican family to get into the United States. It is expensive and requires a tremendous effort, and self-discipline, on their part to save the money. This is especially true if they come illegally. Therefore, the parents and children from Latin America are **very** smart!!!!
— Since our congregation's kids are so smart, they **easily** memorize the first 100 words needed for 1st grade and then the 200 or so words needed in 2nd grade. Their parents think that they are learning to read when they are **NOT**. In third grade they hit a wall.
— We have noticed that when we go to regional cub scout meetings that the Anglo kids are struggling as well.
— I conclude that if any child in this county can read ( Anglo or Latino) his parents, a friend, relative or older sibling has taught him.
NO NO NO children are learning read in our county's government schools!!! Yes! I really mean it. Any child who can read in our county has been AFTERschooled!
But....Guess what? Our schools know that penguin's are dying and the polar bears are downing because they can't find an iceberg to lie down on.
While illegal immigration is a problem in many areas of our culture and economy, government schools are the problem, **not**the kids.
I agree with you. Schools in Michigan started the Tuesday after Labor Day. Almost 1/2 of the students in the Detroit Public Schools didn’t show up, according to a news report this morning.
Now, why would that be??? Lax parents is my first assumption, then peer pressure.
— Our county's government schools insist on putting these kids into bilingual classes even when they speak English **perfectly**!!!! Their parents do NOT NOT NOT want this but are too timid to get in the face of the principal and superintendent. Nearly all of the parents speak so English but most do not speak well enough to aggressively confront a principal or superintendent. ( In their home countries do something like that would get them shot.)
—Our county's government schools will NOT NOT NOT hold a child who is a recent arrival back a year while they learn English. They are put with their age level. Of course this means that they completely lose that entire year while they are struggling with English. And...bilingual classes make a bad situation even worse.
—Again...Our experience with cub scouts has proven to us that NO kids are learning to read in the government schools, Anglo or Latino. If a child can read in this county a parent, friend, relative, or neighbor has taught them. They have been AFTERschooled.
I agree. The idea that children from Spanish-speaking families, whether legal immigrants or illegal, cannot be taught to read is nonsense. I know laborers from Central America who can not only read at a high level (in Spanish) but also speak for an hour about the Scriptures without notes. They are not stupid people, and many, though not all, are reasonably well educated in their native language.
American black children can be taught to read, too. How do people think a few generations after emancipation produced Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Clarence Thomas, and some of the other great intellectuals of our day?
Children today are deliberately not being taught to read. When we look at the general academic attainment of teachers and administrators, this should not surprise us. These are not people who value basic academic competence, let alone excellence.
One of our sons is friends with a child who has been solely educated by American government schools. He reads well. He has some difficulty when it comes to writing higher level papers, but he has not had any help from home. His mother is not too bright—she’s been here just as long as he has, and she speaks broken English. She has children by multiple fathers. There are teachers who see children with potential, and the teachers dedicate more time and energy to those children. So maybe the teachers were after-schooling with this boy. I really don’t know. He now comes to my husband and me when he needs someone to edit his papers. Does that mean that the schools aren’t doing their job? Or does that mean that a student wants to make sure he does things correctly the first time?
BINGO! ....You and your husband are afterschooling him.
So when I homeschooled my daughter and edited her papers, that was afterschooling? Huh? And when my college student has someone edit a paper before turning it in, that is afterschooling? And when my best friend who attended private school came to me, a public school student, for help with her papers, I was afterschooling her?
Yes all you have to do is stand and watch who gets on and off the school bus. Large percentage of hispanic.
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