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To: Squeeky

Wong Kim Ark assumes that “natural born citizen” as intended by the Founders is the same thing as “citizen at birth”, based almost entirely on Dred Scott and other cases from around that time, which were primarily focused on whether Blacks, gypsies, and “Mongolians” could be US citizens.

How would a person know what the Founding Fathers intended back in 1787 by looking at a racist Dred Scott decision of 1857? A decision that denied ANY kind of citizenship to Blacks even if they were the 14th generation born on US soil, I might add. How the Wong Kim Ark court got from that Dred Scott decision to saying that the Founding Fathers intended anybody born here to be eligible to be POTUS is astounding. I’ve seen pretzels that were less convoluted.


524 posted on 10/01/2011 1:49:51 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

You said: “Wong Kim Ark assumes that “natural born citizen” as intended by the Founders is the same thing as “citizen at birth”, based almost entirely on Dred Scott and other cases from around that time, which were primarily focused on whether Blacks, gypsies, and “Mongolians” could be US citizens.

How would a person know what the Founding Fathers intended back in 1787 by looking at a racist Dred Scott decision of 1857?”

That is not what I saw when I read it again. It was mostly old-timey English stuff from before the American Revolution, then they showed how the same stuff held true until then (1898). Sooo, I don’t think Dred Scott was a big part of it at all because nothing I posted above came from Dred Scott, I don’t think.


525 posted on 10/01/2011 2:00:37 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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