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New material claimed to store more energy and cost less money than batteries
gizmag ^
| 9/29/11
| Ben Coxworth
Posted on 09/30/2011 7:33:05 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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Complete vapor-ware but still interesting.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:33:07 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
To: dangerdoc
interesting to see where it could lead if it does work
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:36:21 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: dangerdoc
One of these days we’ll have the breakthrough we need. Getting the energy density without the weight... Changes everything.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:38:49 PM PDT
by
Ramius
(personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: dangerdoc
Maybe a great place to store our coal generated power.
To: dangerdoc
data on factors such as charging/discharging times and longevity have not yet been released Well there's your problem.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:43:49 PM PDT
by
The Cajun
(Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
To: dangerdoc
So basically per given size you could store 200,000 times more energy than a capacitor. I wonder what the max non destructive discharge current is. If it can be really high then these might make electric vehicles much more feasible.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:43:58 PM PDT
by
Revel
To: Revel
Or instantly turn into plasma. Hmmm, plasma grenades......
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:49:08 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
(see post #6)
To: Revel
Obama is prepared to give up to $1T to any Democrat donor who starts a company to manufacture these things for the electric car industry.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:54:50 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
To: dangerdoc
I’d like to know the costs of producing this material.
It doesn’t help much if it is going to be tens of dollars to make this stuff when it costs just pennies to make lthium batteries.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:55:07 PM PDT
by
Jonty30
To: dangerdoc
It could make tasers obsolete.
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:56:43 PM PDT
by
Thrownatbirth
(.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
To: dangerdoc
“...a polystyrene-based polymer, which is sandwiched between two metal plates...”
My God! They’ve invented the capacitor! </S>
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posted on
09/30/2011 7:59:38 PM PDT
by
Nik Naym
(It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
To: dangerdoc
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:00:40 PM PDT
by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
To: dangerdoc
Get your farads, damn cheap!
To: Jonty30
From the article:
“Due in part to the membrane’s low fabrication costs, the cost of storing energy in it reportedly works out to 72 cents US per farad. According to the researchers, the cost for standard liquid electrolyte-based batteries is more like US$7 per farad. This in turn translates to an energy cost of 2.5 watt-hours per US dollar for lithium-ion batteries, whereas the membrane comes in at 10-20 watt-hours per dollar.”
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:04:00 PM PDT
by
Little Pig
(Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Obama is prepared to give up to $1T to any Democrat donor who starts a company to manufacture these things for the electric car industry The precondition is: The company must create at least 37 new union jobs over the next 50 years. /s
To: Little Pig
That is very cheap.
No doubt the EPA must put a stop to it immediately.
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:06:08 PM PDT
by
Jonty30
To: SunkenCiv
To: dangerdoc
Wow coulombs too cheap to meter! I wonder what the breakdown voltage is?
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:31:18 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: Revel
Would it make solar more feasible too?
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:36:25 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Muslims will want to go to the moon when the Jews setup Israel there. - Dennis Miller)
To: Revel
Would it make solar more feasible?
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posted on
09/30/2011 8:36:44 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Muslims will want to go to the moon when the Jews setup Israel there. - Dennis Miller)
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